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Post by tannis on Nov 26, 2008 22:15:05 GMT
Kate Bush - Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo)... Original UK 45rpm Single Sided EMI Studio Acetate c.1976. It's well documented that Kate Bush recorded over 200 Demos before releasing anything and is, these days, not at all happy with here early work. The vocal on this Acetate sounds very much like her unique style. We can't be 100% sure if it is her so have posted a soundfile of the full track for you, the people, to decide.
Winning bid: GBP 109.77 (approximately US $168.49) DON'T LET THE SUNSHINE IN (Demo) by Kate Bush ??
Don't let the sunshine in today Just let me dream of you a little longer Cause in the morning you'll be far away Till then you're mine Our love is growing stronger
Every time I close my eyes I dream of you Then you're mine until that sun starts shining through
Don't let the sunshine in Don't let it shine on me today Don't let the sunshine in Keep that old sunshine far away Today
And every night I see you in my dream And every dream I want to last for ever I think about the way it might have been If you were really here And we could be together
I believe that sometimes dreams they have come true Maybe one day I'll awake and I'll find you
Don't let the sunshine in Don't let it shine on me today Don't let the sunshine in Keep that old sunshine far away Today
Every time I close my eyes I think of you Then you're mine until that sun starts shining through
Don't let the sunshine in Don't let it shine on me today Don't let the sunshine in Keep that old sunshine far away Today
Don't let the sunshine...To be Kate or not to be Kate? ... Kate Bush ?? Unreleased EMI Studios 7" Acetate HEAR IT / Item number: 260318695970 Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo)cgi.ebay.com/Kate-Bush-Unreleased-EMI-Studios-7-Acetate-HEAR-IT_W0QQitemZ260318695970QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item260318695970&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205
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Post by tannis on Nov 27, 2008 11:50:43 GMT
Don't let the sunshine in Don't let it shine on me today Don't let the sunshine in Keep that old sunshine far away...In the Harkers' Bedroom Sunlight sweeps across the buildings across the street from Nina's window. Nosferatu attempts to escape but is touched by the sunlight. He vanishes in a puff of smoke. . . Nosferatu (F. W. Murnau, 1922)If the Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo) is genuine Kate Bush, maybe the song was written and recorded for a vampire film, such as Bram Stoker's Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola, 1992)? After all, according to Del Palmer, Kate Bush completed Lyra in 10 days! Or maybe the Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo) is the lost Disney track...
In 1999, Bush wrote and recorded a song for the Disney film Dinosaur, but the track was ultimately not included on the soundtrack. According to the winter 1999 issue of HomeGround, a Kate Bush fanzine, it was scrapped when Disney asked Bush to rewrite the song and Bush refused. However, according to Disney, the song was cut from the film when preview audiences did not respond well to the track.
Kate Bush performed the song "The Magician", in a fairground-like arrangement, for Menahem Golan's 1979 film The Magician of Lublin. In 1985, Bush contributed a darkly melancholic version of the Ary Barroso song "Brazil" to the soundtrack of the Terry Gilliam film Brazil. The track was scored and arranged by Michael Kamen. In 1986, she wrote and recorded "Be Kind To My Mistakes" for the Nicolas Roeg film Castaway. In 1988, the song "This Woman's Work" was featured in the John Hughes film She's Having A Baby. Bush provided an original song, "Lyra", for the closing credits of the 2007 film The Golden Compass.
And here's some more horror-inspired songs...Annie Lennox Love song for a Vampire uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V-vzjZenAQM Bram Stoker's Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola, 1992) "Love Song for a Vampire" is the theme song to Francis Ford Coppola's 1992 film adaptation of Bram Stoker's Dracula. The song is sung by Annie Lennox. It is the final song on the soundtrack of the movie. It reached number three on the UK Singles Chart and number twenty-four on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart.
Rocky Horror - Over At The Frankenstein Place (sub ita) uk.youtube.com/watch?v=osrFywF264k&feature=related "Over At The Frankenstein Place" is the third song in the cult musical The Rocky Horror Picture Show. The 1975 cult film includes the song being sung outside Dr. Frank N. Furter's castle in the rain. It is performed by Susan Sarandon (Janet), Barry Bostwick (Brad) and Richard O'Brien (Riff-Raff).
China in your Hand - T,Pau uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wjBQoWSFYUE "China in Your Hand" is a song by British band T'Pau, released from their album Bridge of Spies. A re-recorded version was released as a single in October 1987, spending five weeks at number 1 in the UK. The song's lyrics refers to the novel Frankenstein and its author Mary Shelley.
The Phantom of the Opera- Michael Crawford & Sarah Brightman uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUTACn2bW8 There have been literally hundreds of literary and dramatic works based on "The Phantom of the Opera", ranging from light operas to films to children's books. The best known stage and screen adaptations of the novel are probably the 1925 silent film version starring Lon Chaney, Sr. and the 1986 Andrew Lloyd Webber musical.
Kate Bush-Wuthering Height uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv0azq9GF_g Lyrically, "Wuthering Heights" borrows liberally from the novel's utterances of its protagonist Catherine Earnshaw, most notably in its chorus, with Bush utilizing the famous ghostly phrasing "Let me in! I'm so cold!", as well as in the verses, which reference Catherine's confession to her servant of having "bad dreams in the night."
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Post by tannis on Nov 27, 2008 19:37:19 GMT
"Don't Let The Sun Shine" (Demo) Vs "Let The Sunshine In"The 5th Dimension - Aquarius / Let The Sunshine Inwww.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=VwGNrpX8KCMThe song was based on the astrological belief that the world would be entering the Age of Aquarius, an age of love, light and humanity, unlike the then current Age of Pisces. This change was presumed to occur at the end of the 20th century. The song listed at #57 on Billboard's Greatest Songs of all time.
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Post by amy on Nov 27, 2008 20:52:20 GMT
Thanks Tannis. I'm 100% confident that's fake. It's sounds like her at first but the voice gets too tight. It's very good impression but I don't believe it's her (and it has nothing to do with the fact I think it's a horrible song). It's shame they hadn't put more thought into it. If they were selling it on cd dated 1990 it would be more plausible. She didn't have that style of singing in the late 70's but it's on vinyl. She wouldn't be using that demo format any other time outside the 70's or possibly very early 80's. The song's rather unimaginative for her early work - no quirks and the backing vocals??? Kate doesn't think much of her early work so if this is real I'm afraid to say I'm with her on this one!
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Post by tannis on Nov 27, 2008 21:38:40 GMT
Hello Amy. The DLTS demo is creating quite a stir. The vocal inflections sound very Kate, and I agree that it does sound like KaTe at first (except for the clomping piano!). The seller advertised "The vocal on this Acetate sounds very much like her unique style"; and I imagine that, at £109.77, the buyer is convinced it's KaTe too. But I am not sure whether it's Kate. If it is, perhaps it was recorded around the time of Passing Through Air...Oh don't you pour down rain today I need your love, I need your care So much, So much, So much...Kate Bush - Passing Through Air www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgQUZcwd-JQ Kate recorded this song in 1973 with members of the band Unicorn with David Gilmour as producer.
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Post by tannis on Nov 28, 2008 0:13:29 GMT
Listen to the DLTS demo and Unicorn's "No Way Out Of Here"... Do you think the drums are similar? Unicorn- "No Way Out Of Here"www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDssNn8PvDUKate Bush ?? Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo)cgi.ebay.com/Kate-Bush-Unreleased-EMI-Studios-7-Acetate-HEAR-IT_W0QQitemZ260318695970QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Records?hash=item260318695970&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205Following the path laid by Buffalo Springfiled, The Byrds, Poco, The Eagles and many other Country Rock bands in the 70's, Unicorn instilled its own British flair into some pretty inspired tunes and released 4 albums in The UK and 3 in the USA on Capitol Records with the help of Pink Floyd's David Gilmour.
Early in 1973 Unicorn played at the wedding reception of Ricky Hopper. Another guest was David Gilmour of Pink Floyd and at the end of the evening he got up for a jam and suggested doing Neil Young's "Heart of Gold". They played it and afterwards Dave told how he really liked Country Rock which came as a considerable surprise as Pink Floyd seemed a million miles away from that kind of music. A week later Dave phoned Pat to say that he had just completed a studio installed at his country retreat and, as a try out, he could offer a free day there to demo some songs. The band immediately accepted. They recorded three of Ken Baker's songs and Dave added some Fender Pedal Steel Guitar which he had just brought an his last American tour and was learning to play. They were invited back on several occasions to record. Ricky was later to discover Kate Bush, then called Kathy Bush. Pete and Pat from Unicorn played on her first demo recordings at Dave's studio. 1973: Kate records at Gilmour's home studio. The backing band is comprised of Gilmour himself on guitar, and Peter Perrier and Pat Martin of Unicorn on drums and bass, respectively. The songs recorded at this stage include Passing Through Air (later to surface on the b-side of the 1980 single Army Dreamers) and a song now known as Maybe. [Again, a bit more detail would have been welcome here. There is no mention of how many songs were recorded during these recording sessions. Incidentally, an excerpt of this version of the so-called Maybe, which presumably first appeared on Kate's original demos, was played by Kate during a radio programme called Personal Call. It should not be confused with the presumably more professional version of the recording which was made the following year (see below) but which has never been heard by fans.] A Chronology of Kate Bush's Career gaffa.org/garden/chrono.html
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Post by tannis on Nov 28, 2008 14:27:47 GMT
sophistiKaTed kate...
Apparently, Del Palmer has confirmed that the DLTS demo is not sung by Kate Bush. So who is this singer that sounds exactly like her? Kathy Bush? ...
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Nov 28, 2008 15:10:52 GMT
Apparently, Del Palmer has confirmed that the DLTS demo is not sung by Kate Bush. So who is this singer that sounds exactly like her? Kathy Bush? ... I have no doubt that this is a real song from the 70s, but it isn't Kate. The vocal sounds like her at times, but then unlike her at other points in the song, and the vocalist never hits the really high notes that Kate was going for back then. I don't think that this is a modern day attempt to do a "Kate fake" as clearly far too much effort would be involved - all those backing vocalists and musicians and general "crap 70s demo vibe" which is very hard to replicate these days. The 109 pounds this fetched on eBay wouldn't pay for the time and effort involved! Also, as has been pointed out by Tannis, that's not Kate on the piano, and clearly a Kate song would have Kate on the piano! It doesn't sound much like a Kate song either; not only is the lyric rather sappy, but the music is plodding, repetitious and boring. We've heard plenty of Kate's early songs and they are anything but boring. I think it's just a bizarre coincidence that the vocalist happens to sound a little bit like Kate. She's certainly not the first vocalist to coincidentally sound a bit like Kate. Speaking of which, my daughter had VH-1 on this morning and "Cornflake Girl" came on. My daughter asked "Who is this woman and why does she sound like Kate Bush?" That's the younger generation for you, Tori Amos has passed them by but they know who Kate Bush is. Sort of like Wings vs The Beatles... --Paul--
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Post by tannis on Nov 28, 2008 15:30:45 GMT
Yes, Paul, I agree with all your points. What a bizarre coincidence! Will the real singer please step forward...
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Post by tannis on Nov 28, 2008 18:16:33 GMT
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Post by tannis on Nov 29, 2008 11:50:37 GMT
Ignoring the style of the tune, do you think that the demo can be broken down to these component parts? Or would you suggest differently?
Guitar Fender Pedal Steel Guitar Drums Vocal Backing Vocals Piano
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Post by amy on Nov 29, 2008 13:08:04 GMT
Ignoring the style of the tune, do you think that the demo can be broken down to these component parts? Or would you suggest differently?
Guitar Fender Pedal Steel Guitar Drums Vocal Backing Vocals Piano Yes, I think I can hear some backing vocals. I've never been very good at detecting individual instruments but I can hear all those you've mentioned. The song reminds me of Tori Amos's Drive all Night but I can't find a link to it.
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Post by tannis on Nov 29, 2008 13:11:58 GMT
Thank you, Amy. Nor am I any good at detecting individual instruments. I have guessed at steel guitar, but there could instead be reverbing guitars. Anyone else want to have a go at detecting the intruments?
And compare the singing of the phrases "come true", "might have been", and "last forever"... Kate Bush ?? Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo)www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWwXo7lJU8I believe that sometimes dreams they have come true (1:47...) I think about the way it might have been (1:35...)Kate Bush - The Red Shoeswww.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhkAw-XTTAPut them on and your dream'll come true (0.28...)Kate Bush - Never Be Minewww.youtube.com/watch?v=7fXv2ttd2IgMy life that might have been (0:11...)And every night I see you in my dream And every dream I want to last forever (demo)Oh, I'm so worried about my love. They say, "No, no, it won't last forever." (TMWTCIHE)The unknown demo singer could be 'Kate Bush'. But we need Kate Bush scholars to authenticate whether this is so. There are certain phrases that appear in other KT songs, e.g. "come true", "might have been", and "last forever"; and there are vocal inflections which sound very 'Kate Bush'.
The instruments could also date the demo to early 'Kate Bush' work. The pedal steel guitar suggests Gilmour sitting in on pedal steel, as he had done for the band Unicorn in 1973. Early in 1973 Unicorn recorded at Dave Gilmour's home studio, and Dave added some Fender Pedal Steel Guitar which he had just brought on his last American tour and was learning to play. In 1973 Kate also recorded at Gilmour's home studio. The backing band was comprised of Gilmour himself on guitar, and Peter Perrier and Pat Martin of Unicorn on drums and bass, respectively. The songs recorded at this stage include Passing Through Air (later to surface on the b-side of the 1980 single Army Dreamers) and a song now known as Maybe. But there is no mention of how many songs were recorded during these recording sessions. So the DLTS demo could date to this recording session, with Gilmour sitting in on pedal steel, which he was then learning to play.I believe that sometimes dreams they have come true Maybe one day I'll awake and I'll find you... (demo)And all the dreamers are waking... (Nocturn)
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Nov 29, 2008 20:46:13 GMT
It's odd - the track is very elaborate for a demo: all those backing vocals, for example, but it's not very good. The drummer has difficulty keeping time in certain places - the song overall is not very well developed as a composition - plus there's the clunky piano etc.
It's almost more like an actual attempt at a proper recording that was abandoned, rather than just a demo. It's like someone did a few takes and then listened to them later, in the cold light of day and thought "That's just not very good, is it?"
Something that just occured to me - the acetate sold on eBay has a big EMI logo on it. Of course, Kate had signed to EMI in 1976 so that would be the logic of this song being recorded by her in 1976. If it had been recorded at an earlier session then it wouldn't have been for EMI.
But this song is vastly inferior to the sort of work Kate was doing by 1976.
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Post by tannis on Nov 29, 2008 22:27:56 GMT
Yes, Paul, I agree that the track is elaborate for a demo, and more like an actual attempt at a proper recording that was abandoned or made for the experience of making a demo. Something that just occured to me - the acetate sold on eBay has a big EMI logo on it. Of course, Kate had signed to EMI in 1976 so that would be the logic of this song being recorded by her in 1976. If it had been recorded at an earlier session then it wouldn't have been for EMI. The eBay seller clearly thought it was a 'Kate Bush' demo, enough to advertise it as such. And, because 'Kate Bush' was signed to EMI in 1976, that's the date the seller suggests.
But, what if this demo was made before Cathy Bush was signed, but with others who were signed to EMI? This might account for the EMI acetate and no mention of the artist [ARTIST: Dono ~ Don't Know!].
Could the demo be:"Don't Let The Sunshine In (Demo)": Guitar ... PAT MARTIN Fender Pedal Steel Guitar ... DAVE GILMOUR Drums ... PETER PERRIER Vocal ... CATHY BUSH Backing Vocals ... CATHY BUSH with 'UNICORN' (and/or PADDY BUSH?) Piano ... CATHY BUSHAnd consider the 'heavy' piano playing on the demo with the deeper piano on Cussi Cussi ... e.g. 1:59... Maybe, on the Don't Let The Sunshine In demo, Cathy was playing a strange, foreign piano that she was unfamiliar with.
Kate Bush - Cussi Cussiwww.youtube.com/watch?v=WWyKKKtPBgkIn 1973, Unicorn met David Gilmour of Pink Floyd. Gilmour offered to produce the band in a new studio he'd had built at his country retreat in Essex. Unicorn recorded there on several occasions — with Gilmour sitting in on pedal steel — and he eventually helped the band secure a new record deal with his manager Steve O'Rourke's EMKA organization. Gilmour produced Unicorn's sessions in London's Olympic Studios for their next album, Blue Pine Trees. That album — probably the group's best, sounding a bit like American soft rock/country-rock acts Poco, Firefall, and the Flying Burrito Brothers — was released on Charisma Records in the U.K, on Capitol in the U.S., and EMI International everywhere else...
Capitol underwrote Unicorn's U.S. tour, which found them opening for Fleetwood Mac, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Climax Blues Band, Camel, the Doobie Brothers, Billy Joel, Linda Ronstadt, and Styx. In 1975, Unicorn recorded at George Martin's Air Studios and Olympic Studios, adding to these the leftover masters from their earlier sessions with Gilmour, which were collected for their next album, Too Many Crooks (released in America as Unicorn II). The album was subsequently issued by EMI's Harvest imprint. Unicorn continued to tour with top acts of the day throughout the next few years, returning to the studio — this time, to Pink Floyd's studio at Britannia Row in Islington — to work with Gilmour again. When Gilmour left the project to join Pink Floyd on tour, Muff Winwood produced subsequent tracks at Island Studio.
Unicornwww.itsaboutmusic.com/unicorn.htmlIf the song originates back to 1973 and the David Gilmour 'Passing Through Air' session, and if it's Unicorn and Gilmour playing the instruments and providing the b/v's, then the Unicorn and Gilmour involvement can explain the confidence and elaborate production/arrangement of the demo.
The vocal inflections do sound very 'Kate', as does some of the phrasing (e.g. listen to how she sings 'dream(s)', 'come true', and 'might have been'). Maybe 'Kate' wrote or co-wrote the song, though she could be singing someone else's composition.
Was there really another woman singing very much like 'Kate Bush' AND associated with EMI before 1976? ... PINK FLOYD, UNICORN, KATE BUSH & EMI HARVEST
PINK FLOYD - UMMAGUMMA - 1969 - HARVEST
UNICORN - DISCO DANCER / EASY. 7" SINGLE - 1976 - HARVEST
Kate Bush - Lionheart - 1978 - Harvest Label LP
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