Sven Golly
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"In the night you hide from the madman you're longing to be"
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Post by Sven Golly on Apr 22, 2004 3:15:53 GMT
I inadvertantly edited the last post, instead of quoting from it. Anyway, Paul, you pick...
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Post by brillo69 on Apr 22, 2004 3:36:20 GMT
Stairlift Swizzler.
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Post by strabley on Apr 22, 2004 19:29:16 GMT
I'm usually pretty good w/these but I never heard of that one.
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 22, 2004 19:35:43 GMT
Stairlift Swizzler... I heard of it as a Stairlift Swizzle. But I think it's: 2 m. of Tequila 2 m. of Dark Rum 2 m. of Apricot Brandy 1 m. of Grenadine ice cubes OJ top up I'm not much of a rum fan, and this seems really sweet and rich. Gin's my alcohol or choice. How about a Gin & Sin?
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Post by brillo69 on Apr 23, 2004 1:10:28 GMT
1 1/2 ozGin 1 oz Orange juice 1 oz Lemon juice 1/2 tsp Grenadine
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Post by Adey on Apr 23, 2004 14:51:43 GMT
I've been following some of these cocktail ' recipes ' .
All I can say is bleahhh.
I enjoy a drink as much as the next man. Usually beer or wine, the occasional single malt whisky or cognac and I've a liking for American Bourbon. But who the hell would drink some of these concoctions?
Surely there comes a time when you lose site of what you're trying to achieve with the drink. Most good spirits/wines/beers already have a complex taste and character. When you start stacking them up, you just surely get nonsense, with flavours working against each other rather than complimenting which you assume is the intention. By the time you've got 3 base spirits in there, all bets are off for taste. It's like the person that wears the horrible multi coloured/multi patterned sweater/jumper whatever. There are very few cocktails that actually work as a taste experience. The ones that do are usually the simplest; 1 (no more than 2) spirit bases, an imaginative mixer and maybe something to give colour or texture.
In the past, the classic cocktail bar was associated with a degree of sophisitication - an alternative to the beer bar, somewhere where those of delicate sensibilities could enjoy an evening out probably with some sophisticated entertainment along the way.
Certainly in the UK at least, cocktails are now sold (and subtly marketed) to barely legally aged drinkers who just want to get off their faces as quickly as possible.
If you want exotic, go wih the classics. You can't beat a good gin and tonic, whisky and dry ginger, snowball or martini. Use the cheaper good spirits. There's no point at all in acquiring a first rate cognac or malt whisky and putting something in it. (If nec, just add ice or a little bottled water). It's all you need.
Am I alone here and just a killjoy?
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Post by strabley on Apr 23, 2004 17:13:07 GMT
Obviously Adey, you've never had a golden cadillac, mudslide, scorpion, scratch me lani, or a pousse cafe. We are gonna have to agree to disagree here. Not that I am saying you're a killjoy, but I'm not the one who brought the cloudbuster to the drink parade. ;D J/K. And long island ice teas are very good when made properly, but most bartenders don't make them right, and then they are awful...
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Post by strabley on Apr 23, 2004 17:16:35 GMT
I'm not much of a rum fan, and this seems really sweet and rich. Gin's my alcohol or choice. How about a Gin & Sin? OMG you like gin too? Yet another thing we have in common! It's getting eerie...I mean Adey's even said we are "spooky" ;D I LOVE that someone in the middle of England thinks I'm spooky!
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 23, 2004 17:30:41 GMT
If you want exotic, go wih the classics. You can't beat a good gin and tonic, whisky and dry ginger, snowball or martini. Use the cheaper good spirits. There's no point at all in acquiring a first rate cognac or malt whisky and putting something in it. (If nec, just add ice or a little bottled water). It's all you need. Am I alone here and just a killjoy? No, I agree Adey. I was just trying to get into the fun of it. We enjoy making many different cocktails and like experimenting with different liquors, beers, and wines. We went through that phase of exotica a while back, and was that expensive. Now, just a simple stocked bar with all the ingredients for our faves. That doesn't mean I don't like a good Tiki drink once in a while or a Mint Julip, maybe a Manhattan, Perfect Cocktail, or Sangria. My drink or choice is a Gin (Gordon's) and Tonic, no fruit over ice. I also like a Port in a Storm. A dry gin martini (Boodles or Gordon's) with Noilly Prat Vermouth and a lemon twist. Try as you must, you can't reinvent the wheel. For me, I don't even really order mixed drinks at a restaurant anymore. I'm spoiled at home and I won't pay those prices for what they serve most of the time. When I order, just a nice red zin or full spicy red, Guiness, or McGoohan's Scotch Ale is fine for me. But, there are a few mixed up drinks that can be fun. You just have to know what you're doing, right? It's like cooking. I suppose I am somewhere between Adey and Sheila on this. ;D ;D I am always looking for a new drink. Unfortunately, so many of the patrons at bars don't know a good mixed drink anyway, so the bartenders can add too much fruit juice or ice, and no one will know. Which come first, no appreciation or skimping on the liquor? You have to go to the right places.
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 23, 2004 17:32:33 GMT
And long island ice teas are very good when made properly, but most bartenders don't make them right, and then they are awful... Had one last night, Sheila! I have a full time bartender (licensed) on hand to serve me, no tips required. ;D
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 23, 2004 17:34:30 GMT
OMG you like gin too? Yet another thing we have in common! It's getting eerie...I mean Adey's even said we are "spooky" ;D I LOVE that someone in the middle of England thinks I'm spooky! So funny! ;D What brands do you like? I really miss the Tanqueray Malaaca Gin. Maybe we are spooky, who knows?
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Post by strabley on Apr 23, 2004 18:07:39 GMT
So funny! ;D What brands do you like? I really miss the Tanqueray Malaaca Gin. Maybe we are spooky, who knows? I prefer Beefeater. On a budget, Seagrams.
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 23, 2004 19:12:35 GMT
I prefer Beefeater. On a budget, Seagrams. I had a bad experience (basically a bad drink) with Beefeater once, and it sort of turned me off. I should try it again. I scour the stores for sales to get what I want. ;D ;D The only rainchecks I'll get are for for "on sale" liquor. ;D ;D
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Post by Adey on Apr 24, 2004 14:17:23 GMT
All very interesting. I have enjoyed a Manhattan and a few Tequilla Sunrises, so I'm not totally anti cocktails. But I still think that usually they're overdone.
Sheila, I bow to your particular expertise. If I ever get to your neck of the woods, you can educate me at some suitable bar!
Xan, I assume you're referring to your hubby. Damn, now I'm going to think of you as the couple from Sex in the City..
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 24, 2004 17:28:55 GMT
Xan, I assume you're referring to your hubby. Damn, now I'm going to think of you as the couple from Sex in the City.. Yes, but he's never worked as a bartender officially, just has a lot of interest and books and got a license. It came with a growing interest in cooking. Right food, right drink. Ironically, we were at a restaurant where he had left his ID at work and only had the liquor license. When carded, he showed that picture ID. She wouldn't serve him, we left. The fool didn't understand that you had to be 21 to even take the class and it was an official state licence. As for the Sex in the City comment, sorry it's lost on me. I never watched that show, so I don't know if that's funny, teasing or insulting? And when I get back to Chicago, Sheila, you'll have set me up with some you mentioned. ;D
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