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Post by rosabelbelieve on Apr 4, 2008 21:36:46 GMT
Lots of Kate songs make me tear up, but not necessarily in a sad way. I often picture Kate singing the songs when I'm listening to them, which can make for an intense listening experience. When the lines are particularly meaningful to me I sometimes imagine that I am Kate singing them, if that makes any sense. A song like The Hounds Of Love is particularly exhilarating and overwhelming when I imagine it that way, and I certainly identify with the subject matter of that song. It's kind of like making a deal with God sometimes I just have to mentally swap places with her to really get the most out a song. I'd like to stress that this is purely imagination - I'm not some kind of drag queen! So of course I've already imagined The Song Of Solomon from multiple points of view, but mostly hers. It's curious, because if I'm listening to a male songwriter (like Dylan, or Bowie or Costello) I don't necessarily feel like I need to see through their eyes, but with Kate I feel compelled to. I don't know if that is because she is female, or if it's because she is Kate. --Paul-- I do exactly the same thing. Not only with Kate, though, and it generally comes about by me singing, so not totally in the imagination... But it really is just this intense feeling of being in the song. And listening with that kind of undivided attention, about three-quarters of Kate's work can make me tear up- though as you said, not really in a sad way.
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Apr 4, 2008 23:43:17 GMT
I do exactly the same thing. Not only with Kate, though, and it generally comes about by me singing, so not totally in the imagination... But it really is just this intense feeling of being in the song. And listening with that kind of undivided attention, about three-quarters of Kate's work can make me tear up- though as you said, not really in a sad way. I certainly sing other people's songs, either in reality or imagination, but I don't imagine that I'm taking on their persona when I'm doing it! I don't pretend I'm the Thin White Duke when I'm singing Station To Station (an exhilarating song, by the way) although that might be fun to try. Rarely do other songwriters make me tear up ... Neil Finn sometimes (usually with his brother Tim), Suzanne Vega on one or two occasions but certainly The Queen and the Soldier, Elvis Costello on I'll Wear it Proudly, American Without Tears (ooh, irony), Couldn't Call It Unexpected #4, although that last one is a sad song. Kate, on the other hand... About the only Kate song I can sing without thinking about her is King Of the Mountain. As for The Song of Solomon I suspect that this song would sound bizarre, and at times harsh, if it were sung by a man. Unless they were very effete and/or otherworldly, I suppose. --Paul--
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Post by tannis on Oct 6, 2008 17:00:40 GMT
And I wonder if Kate Bush is a Carly Simon fan...Wiki cites the Playing Possum album cover as a precursor to Madonna's shocking abandon; and the cover to Carly Simon's No Secrets may have inspired the Gered Mankowitz debut images of Kate Bush in Leotard.
No Secrets, Carly Simon, 1972 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/Csns.jpg/200px-Csns.jpg
Moving Cover photo and design by Gered Mankowitzwww.ultra-pop.org/images/band/bush.jpgAnd in some ways, KaTe's TSOS reminds me of Carly's "The Girl You Think You See" and "After The Storm" ...I'm not necessarily The girl you think you see Whoever you want is exactly who I'm more than willing to be I'll be insane A mathematical brain You Tarzan, me Jane To please you...Well you come on like a hurricane I'm settling like your weathervane After the storm And your body feels so warm After the storm...And I'll do it for you I'll be the Rose of Sharon for you I'll do it for you I'll be the Lily of the Valley for you I'll do it for you I'll be Isolde or Marion for you I'll do it for you Ooh I'll come in a hurricane for you I'll do it for you...
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Post by bess on Oct 12, 2008 15:29:08 GMT
You're right, Tannis, there is a striking similarity lyrically. I thought of that, too.
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Oct 12, 2008 19:47:33 GMT
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Post by tannis on Oct 12, 2008 20:23:42 GMT
He shouted out, "I'm all yours, Bazookas, Bazookas, Bazookas-ya-ya!" ... ;D ;D ;D
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Sven Golly
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"In the night you hide from the madman you're longing to be"
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Post by Sven Golly on Oct 12, 2008 22:56:40 GMT
...they're done
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Post by Al Truest on Oct 13, 2008 0:50:13 GMT
^^^Get over the nipples already , we all have them They're useless on us though...
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Oct 13, 2008 10:06:20 GMT
^^^Get over the nipples already , we all have them No, no, I was simply referring to her soulful brown eyes. ;D And yes, we all have nipples, but we don't have Kate's nipples. --Paul--
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Post by tannis on Feb 15, 2009 23:27:38 GMT
Write me your poetry in motion Write it just for me, yeah And sign it with a kiss And I'll do it for you I'll be the Rose of Sharon for you I'll do it for you I'll be the Lily of the Valley for you I'll do it for you I'll be Isolde or Marion for youDante Gabriel Rossetti, Tristram and Isolde Drinking the Love Potion, 1867 Tristan and Isolde are deeply woven into modern love tragedy. The funeral song for Tristan, Mild und Leise, is the song of the love that challenges the power of death itself. Before Rock and Roll there were only Opera to work the emotions on the grand scale that only music can, and here Isolde has taken the drink that will bind her for ever to Tristan, and Romeo to Juliet, and Cathy to Heathcliff, and Quint to...."Cathy" (1986)[/color] home.att.net/~james51453/cathy18.htmDante Gabriel Rossetti, Mary Nazarene, c.1855 Mary is seen planting a lily and a rose bush beside a stream. Among the Christians, Jesus is the rose of Sharon and Mary is the lily of the valleys.
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Post by tannis on Feb 19, 2009 6:45:25 GMT
The Song of Solomon Just as Kate used a section from .James Joyce's Ulysses on The Sensual World album, Song of Solomon uses biblical texts almost verbatim. "This is one of the first tracks we mixed and it's very simple. The sampled harp sound on the Fairlight alternates with the piano - the toms were originally played, but the final sounds are sampled from an Emu percussion unit but with a boomy bottom end added - the originals were more like tablas and they sounded too lightweight along with the ethereal harp and piano. The original tom sound is gated so that it just produces a short click, and the click is used to trigger the Fairlight. We had to advance the track on the digital multi-track to get the timing right, then move it back again with a digital delay so you've got a mixture of toms where some are on the beat and some are slightly off it. The good thing about the Fairlight is that it's stereo so you can sample a whole drum kit in one go." Future Music interview with Del Palmer, "Well red", Nov. 1993www.gaffaweb.org/reaching/i93_fm.html
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Post by stufarq on Aug 18, 2009 22:55:56 GMT
What I know about the Song of Solomon is that it was included in the Bible in the early middle ages. Faith was dwindling, so Solomon preached about his love for God by comparing it to the then forbidden passion between a black girl and a white man. He made it intentionally saucy hoping it would keep the crowd's attention. There's no consensus among scholars as to whether this was written by Solomon or for him. Nor is there any agreement over what it's really about. There are theories that it's an allegory about the love between man and God, man and Christ, God and Israel etc but these are pretty hard to justify when the whole thing's so explicitly erotic (although there is a Kabbalistic belief in sacred erotica) and God isn't even mentioned. The simplest theory is that it's just what it appears to be - an erotic poem (and very much in the Egyptian tradition). And it's not about forbidden passion of any sort. There are references to "my spouse". The girl isn't black, she's described as "dark" and "swarthy", specifically because she works out in the sun.
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