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Post by Lori on Jul 7, 2003 21:54:52 GMT
I've pulled down my lace and the chintz Oh, do you know you have the face of a genius? I'll send your love to Zeus Oh, by the time you read this I'll be well in touch
I'm giving it all in a moment or two I'm giving it all in a moment, for you I'm giving it all, giving it, giving it This kicking here inside Makes me leave you behind No more under the quilt To keep you warm Your sister I was born You must lose me like an arrow Shot into the killer storm
You and me on the bobbing knee Didn't we cry at that old mythology he'd read! I will come home again, but not until The sun and the moon meet on yon hill
I'm giving it all in a moment or two I'm giving it all in a moment, for you I'm giving it all, giving it, giving it This kicking here inside Makes me leave you behind No more under the quilt To keep you warm Your sister I was born You must lose me like an arrow Shot into the killer storm
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Post by Adey on Jan 30, 2004 12:12:16 GMT
For its time this was quite a daring song - dealing with an age old taboo. I recall some long lost interview in which KB said she was just playing with ideas/themes from some old Greek myths/fables. I'm sure she had no-one specific in mind when she wrote it and if she did, she's not saying. Probably for the best.
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Post by Adey on Apr 6, 2004 21:15:54 GMT
I remember that Kate's performance of this song on the tour made a great impression on me. It really is a great shame that it wasn't included on the Hammersmith video. She played the song solo, on the grand piano. She was barefooted, wearing something like her red Wuthering Heights ragged dress - only it wasn't that. As she reached the end of the first chorus, Gary Hurst (I think) joined her on the stage, walking slowly towards her as the song progressed. He reached her just as the final chord sounded. As kate bowed her head, still at the piano, he laid a lace shawl over her. The lights went down..
Everywhere I looked, people were wiping their eyes. It was some time before the audience responded. I would love to revisit that point in time again at least once in my life - it was an astounding few moments.
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 26, 2005 16:42:58 GMT
For its time this was quite a daring song - dealing with an age old taboo. I recall some long lost interview in which KB said she was just playing with ideas/themes from some old Greek myths/fables. I'm sure she had no-one specific in mind when she wrote it and if she did, she's not saying. Probably for the best. While digging, I found this post, which I must have missed. From what I remember, and after a bit of research, much of the ''Kick Inside'' was inspired by an old traditional song ''Lucy Wan'' The theme, as Adey mentions being taboo, is a woman who is willing to die to save her brother and family from shame and disgust. The song is a suicide note from a girl in love with, and impregnated by, her brother. ''Giving it all in a moment for you'' is her sacrifice. Here is the inspiration with a midi-file backgound: click hereKate gives the song a twist, as you may notice.
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Post by Al Truest on May 14, 2005 1:39:47 GMT
Don't bother, you are outmatched sister.
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Post by saloldgal on Sept 3, 2005 8:30:01 GMT
Well, here I am again... up in the middle of the night scrounging for my Kate fix (which would be learning something new about Kate or her music). Maybe everyone else has already seen this, but for me, the following is a revelation. I never realized that Kate's "yon hill" line was a direct pull from a work of British "mythology" (see the last several lines at the bottom)... Here is an excerpt of the lyrics from an early verson of "The Kick Inside" from www.norbry.net/kate-bush/song/tkib.html:You and me on the bobbing knee Welling eyes from identifying with Lizie Wan's story. Here is what I found about Lizie Wan at www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/child/ch051.htmSounds like it may not have been a suicide after all! I guess I can understand now why they cried - especially having heard this story while young enough to be on a bobbing knee. Hope it is OK for me to reproduce something so long here. In the following, "mane" translates as "mourn" or "moan" (depending on where I look), "brither" as "brother" and "fause" as false/deceitful. 51B: Lizie Wan ... 51B.7 Rosie she sat in her simmer bower, Weeping and making great mane, And wha cam doun but her fause, fause brither, Saying, What ails thee, Rosie Ann? 51B.8 ‘A deal, a deal, dear brither,’ she said, ‘Great reason hae I to cry, For there lyes a little babe in my side, Between yoursell and I.’ 51B.9 ‘Weel ye hae tauld father, and ye hae tauld mither, And ye hae tauld sister, a’ three;’ Syne he pulled out his wee penknife, And he cut her fair bodie in three. 51B.10 ‘O what blude is that on the point o your knife, Dear son, come tell to me?’ ... ‘It is my sister’s, that I did kill, Dear mother and fair ladie.’ 51B.13 ‘What will ye do when your father comes hame, Dear son, come tell to me?’ ‘I’ll set my foot on yon shipboard, And I hope she’ll sail wi me.’ ... 51B.17 'And whan will you return again, Dear son, come tell to me?’, ‘When the sun and the mune meet on yon hill, And I hope that’ll neer be.’
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Post by saloldgal on Sept 3, 2005 19:17:35 GMT
I'm not sure how I missed it last night, but I just noticed the link Al had already posted, which contains a midi file and lyrics for a variation of this same folk song. Thanks Al! It's great to hear the tune that goes with the lyrics. It easy to picture Kate singing this as a child with Paddy and his folk music pals. On further comparison of Kate's early TKI lyrics and the Lizie Wan/Lucy Wan/Rosie Ann lyrics, it looks to me like TKI is actually not a recounting of the folk song. It seems to be the tale of a different sister and brother who see parallels between their situation and that of Lizie Wan and her brother (not extending to the same exact conclusion, of course). Now the "I will come home again.." line from TKI seems more like it might be simply a quotation from the folk song rather than a promise to return from the dead... Ahhh, the mystery of it all.
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stev0
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Post by stev0 on Sept 3, 2005 21:07:14 GMT
When you look at the original lyrics (from the Demos):
It's obvious it's not THE Lizie Wan story, but definitely inspired by it.
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tabatha
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Post by tabatha on Nov 13, 2005 13:28:00 GMT
Of late I had a friend play this. She didn't really realise what it was about, even though she had probably listened to it countless times. On pointing out the "your sister I was born" bit and the incest theme she blurted out, "What Kate Bush is incestuous!", which would be worst coming from any one but her, she pretty weird. I don't know why I'm telling you this, I just wounder if any one else had this reaction, or like me was slightly shocked when they realised what it was about.
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Post by Adey on Nov 13, 2005 16:06:50 GMT
Of course. I too was shocked at the time as I recall..
Not quite so much when I discovered that it was based on an old folk tale.
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Post by Al Truest on Nov 13, 2005 16:15:25 GMT
Kate's propensity to explore darker themes in her earlier music is what made it lyrically as well as socially provocative. Spurring thought is what art does in part. Challenging notions, defining tradition and exhalting literature are all elements that Kate used in her writing. Better, I'd say, than having to sell it with a gyrating posterior ala the Madonna through Britney clones.
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Post by Adey on Nov 13, 2005 16:20:18 GMT
Not to say of course that the KB gyrating posterior doesn't have a lot going for it.
Whoops sorry, I'm dribbling..
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Post by Al Truest on Nov 13, 2005 16:22:22 GMT
Not to say of course that the KB gyrating posterior doesn't have a lot going for it. Oh, no doubt. That would just be icing though. ;D edit: Would look strange, though, whilst preforming TKI.
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tabatha
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"On Saturday evening, oh well Eddie was so pretty. But now his boy is leaving.
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Post by tabatha on Nov 13, 2005 18:40:23 GMT
It would look more than weird, I'm running away because I'm having my brother's baby, but yet look, I have a really firm ass, wait whilst I gyrate it for you. Not really in on the same lines as the song.
It's based on a folk tale? This is a bit more worped than King Aurthur or the like. But I suppose the Ancient Greeks were just as bad, Zeus was married to his sister Hera.
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mizzshy
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"Oh darling, Make it go, Make it go away..."
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Post by mizzshy on Apr 21, 2006 20:49:49 GMT
I had some thoughts about prostitution... maybe her family needs money, and she is leaving to get work as a prostitute... nah, that's probably completely wrong...
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