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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 4, 2004 20:56:43 GMT
You underestimate me AND are just now getting my sense of humor. Ask yourself this - What sixteen guests would be visiting at one time?. It was not just Kate, there were a few EMI marketing folks here as well. I am not averse to tapping into my intuition. I do, however, have disdain for charletons and self serving proclaimers of psychic leadership. Point taken. I'm gone man, silent gone..............................................................................
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 5, 2004 15:12:16 GMT
I do, however, have disdain for charletons and self serving proclaimers of psychic leadership. Am I included in this number?
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 5, 2004 15:49:46 GMT
Am I included in this number? I don't know. Are you a charlatan or a self serving proclamer of psychic leadership? I was referring to people who profit from using other people's fear and ignorance...fortune tellers, people who give false hope etc. Conversely, people with conviction who share information for the greater good e.g. crime solving and profiling etc. have my respect.
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 5, 2004 23:56:00 GMT
I don't know. Are you a Charleton or a self serving proclamer of psychic leadership? I was referring to people who profit from using other people's fear and ignorance...fortune tellers, people who give false hope etc. Conversely, people with conviction who share information for the greater good e.g. crime solving and profiling etc. have my respect. How can one know if one is self serving? The false and the true sit side by side each serving a purpose. The fence dividing them is built by the culture of experience. Question this and all are entitled to your respect.
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 6, 2004 2:43:55 GMT
How can one know if one is self serving? If you have to ask, then your are unsure of the truth. I know when I am being honest. I also have a good read when someone is full of crap or being manipulative. People that contact dead relatives for a fee are crooks. People who sell books based on manufactured prophecy are also crooks. In your case, and only since you've asked me, I think you want to believe in your dreams. Who am I to quash them. However, there are borders, either real or perceived, that you must cross to manifest a reality that involves another person. Even if it your intentions are not to act on your feelings, the public expression is a vicarious consumation of your desires. When openly declared, they offer threat and concern to the object of your affection. Some fantasies, and I mean specifically yours too here, in my opinion, should remain private. Dreams or fantasies should be shared by consenting parties or kept confidential as propriety dictates.. You, if the shoe were on the other foot, would be uncomfortable with a stranger expressing public affection and desire to the point of love and death. Those topics I find creepy when expressed about Kate Bush, or any other celebrity. My ability to question and ascertain truth, protects me from the unfetered expression of my base emotions. Responsibility and consequence must be taken into account. Your dream, in my opinion, is Kate Bush's nightmare. You keep asking for my approval or acceptance. You continually attempt to enlighten me as to the power of dreams. But my answers and my beliefs remain steadfast. If you ask me again next month, I will give you the same honest response. Sorry....I hope this helps you out of another proverbial hole.
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 7, 2004 5:43:22 GMT
Thank you Altuest.
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 7, 2004 23:15:23 GMT
I'm glad you're not too offended. Have I discouraged anyone else with my pointed remarks - or is this board becoming a soap opera? I'm sorry if that is the case. Please give some feedback. Do I need to keep a lid on my opinions?
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 7, 2004 23:46:34 GMT
As Sven stated on another thread, if you can't take the slings and arrows of criticism, then you must question the substance of your material. I've always appreciated the honest conveyance of your view Al. We rarely see eye-to-eye perhaps because we literally can't see eye-to-eye. They are after all the windows to our soul. The real truth is there if often it is hidden by a clever veneer. I hope one day to see yours. (perhaps in 2008 when I fly you in to the IOM) You do want to come, don't you? I think I will post a formal invite on this board for all members registered before the release of KT8.
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 8, 2004 0:53:33 GMT
This will serve as my last response to these hallucinations. You need more help than I can provide, however, I don't care to read about your friggin' delusions. Too much veneer?
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Post by Adey on Apr 8, 2004 1:43:40 GMT
I'm glad you're not too offended. Have I discouraged anyone else with my pointed remarks - or is this board becoming a soap opera? I'm sorry if that is the case. Please give some feedback. Do I need to keep a lid on my opinions? Can't say I've ever been discouraged or offended by you AT. All human life is here, so I guess it's bound to seem like a soap opera at times. Post on and remain lidless..
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Post by Sven Golly on Apr 8, 2004 1:57:52 GMT
This will serve as my last response to these hallucinations. You need more help than I can provide, however, I don't care to read about your friggin' delusions. Too much veneer? Quite the contrary Al. Honesty needs no venner. There has been a bit of soap opera going on, but the only disingenuous rhetoric is not coming from you.
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 8, 2004 22:00:52 GMT
Never thought I'd ever say this, but I've found someone who bores me. Congratulations Altruest! You've won the enlightening prize. ;D Come to think of it, the whole board bores me. (sorry Lori it has been fun) I did think you guys had open minds. Perhaps when they do open you'll understand my final word. (Good riddance I hear the chorus echo) you'relateinepottonikafetishindreamijokeusallthemarktimeinmadnessnewonezeroooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ....................................................................................... ....................................................................................... ....................................................................................... .......................................................................................
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Post by Adey on Apr 8, 2004 22:40:50 GMT
As people like to say in here - " WTF " ?
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Post by Xanadu on Apr 8, 2004 23:04:51 GMT
Never thought I'd ever say this, but I've found someone who bores me. Congratulations Altruest! You've won the enlightening prize. ;D I hadn't thought of you as being so harsh. I understand that Al Truest may have been rough on you in your opinion, but he is intitled to his opinion. Sometimes what you share is positive and enlightening, but I do see how, at other times, it can be understood as disturbing. I can only speculate as to your true self, and try to remain neutral... Come to think of it, the whole board bores me. (sorry Lori it has been fun) I did think you guys had open minds. Perhaps when they do open you'll understand my final word. (Good riddance I hear the chorus echo) ...except here. This has offended many of us who share an appreciation and love for the music of Kate Bush. What I feel makes (or made) us special was that we also connected on many other levels, that we don't always get in our day to day life. "Deeper understanding" if you will, but I liked to share our opinions in an intelligent, thoughtful, and fun manner. There are "slow" times, and there are "up" times, but the bottom line is.... THERE IS NO CURRENT KATE BUSH ALBUM/TOUR/MERCHANDISE. We are left to create something else here, with its roots firmly planted in our appreciation of her, but not limited to that. This board is only as interesting as you find it and are prepared to make it. you'relateinepottonikafetishindreamijokeusallthemarktimeinmadnessnewonezeroooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ....................................................................................... ....................................................................................... ....................................................................................... ....................................................................................... At this point, I think this is being intentionally leading. Why toy with us? Personally, I have enjoyed many of your contributions, but mostly when I don't feel they have been contrived or cryptic. I can hear Al Truest groan and at this... but this is what I have deciphered so far: you're late / you relate (could be either) in epottonik (lost on me) a fetish in dream i joke us all the marktime in madness new one zero "There's a double meaning in that."
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Post by brillo69 on Apr 8, 2004 23:39:39 GMT
Come to think of it, the whole board bores me. (sorry Lori it has been fun) I did think you guys had open minds. That's going below the belt a bit isn't it? Was this remark really neccessary? If the board bores you, then why post here? It couldn't have bored you that much, otherwise you would have left a long time ago.
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