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Post by Lori on Jul 31, 2003 23:31:36 GMT
The Song of Solomon The song of everyone Who walks the path Of the solitary heart The soul cries out Hear a woman singing
Don't want your bullshit, yeah Just want your sexuality Don't want excuses, yeah Write me your poetry in motion Write it just for me, yeah And sing it with a kiss
Mmm, just take any line "Comfort me with apples For I am sick of love His left hand is under my head And his right hand Doth embrace me" This is the Song of Solomon Here's a woman singing
Don't want your bullshit, yeah Just want your sexuality Don't want your excuses, yeah Write me your poetry in motion Write it just for me, yeah And sign it with a kiss
And I'll do it for you I'll be the Rose of Sharon for you I'll do it for you I'll be the Lily of the Valley for you I'll do it for you I'll be Isolde or Marion for you I'll do it for you Ooh I'll come in a hurricane for you I'll do it for you A wop bam boom
Don't want your bullshit, yeah Just want your sexuality
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 7, 2003 22:00:58 GMT
In light of my irreverent comments about Sheila's version of "Song of Solomen" I would like to hear the two lines that were the same, and how close the other lyrics were in theme. What do you say Sheila?
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Post by Sto on Dec 18, 2003 11:30:40 GMT
Apparently there's a link between the Rose of Sharon, the lily of the valley and the Bible, in that they're biblical references. Anyone know any more? I adore this part of the song and I'd like to find out what it's about
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Post by strabley on Dec 18, 2003 23:00:37 GMT
Oh man, Al! I missed this post! Sorry it took me this long to respond I just read that post today. I haven't seen my SOS in a long time (I'm sure it's in storage) but "for I am sick of love his left hand is under my head and his right hand doth embrace me" was in my song too, and there was something else I can't recall at the moment. My SOS was more focusing on the feeling of being in love--wanting someone so bad you feel like you will die if you can't have them (PETER!!!!!!!!!!!COME BACK PETER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, uh, sorry ) whereas Kate's is more like, well I realize this is crude, but for the sake of summation, Kate's is more like "Shut up and @$#% me!" I realize it's more complex than that, but I'm just pointing out the differences. Mine kept repeating the line "I will kiss the kiss of his mouth. The kiss the kiss the kiss of his mouth" I CAN'T BELIEVE KATE DIDN'T USE THAT LINE!!!!!!!!! Isn't that a great line?? I gotta go this post is gonna have to be a 2 parter... to be continued...
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Post by Al Truest on Dec 19, 2003 2:48:26 GMT
Bring it on!~
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Post by strabley on Dec 19, 2003 18:05:40 GMT
Keep your pants on, Al! The 2nd part of my post is biblical!
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Post by Xanadu on Dec 19, 2003 19:58:46 GMT
It's pretty incredible that you wrote a song about this too. Did you ever record it? I love that you have felt comfortable enough to share it with us. I look forward to reading more about it. It would be wonderful if we could hear your version too. Sorry, when I get started, I can just go on and on! I can't wait to read more about your song and interpretationm Sheila! ;D I think Sheila had some really insightful points here. I'd like her to go on.
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Post by strabley on Dec 23, 2003 17:45:20 GMT
Sorry it took so long to post this--things have been frantic lately! What I know about the Song of Solomon is that it was included in the Bible in the early middle ages. Faith was dwindling, so Solomon preached about his love for God by comparing it to the then forbidden passion between a black girl and a white man. He made it intentionally saucy hoping it would keep the crowd's attention. So Kate and I both right around the same time were inspired to write a sexy song based on a book in the bible, which at first seems like a coincidence but here is my theory on why it is not----The Song of Solomon was banned from the Catholic version of the Bible for many centuries. It was only about 12 years ago that it was put back into the Bible, which would help explain why both Kate and I would have stumbled across it around the same time. I, like Kate was born and raised a Catholic and I am assuming that Kate first read the song of Solomon around the same time I did. I read it in my Medievial history class in college many many moons ago. I don't know how this relates to Zan's interpretation or references exactly, I'm just going by what I remember learning in college, then again I did do a lot of acid back then... Well, honestly, how much do you remember from your schooling 12 years ago? I know, that's no excuse.
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Post by Xanadu on Dec 27, 2003 20:59:25 GMT
I'm glad you posted your information about TSOS Sheila, it's very interesting. I can see now why you'd be inspired to write a similar song. Did you ever record it? Do you often write songs? And, that was a great line.
Not being brought up Catholic, I have had to discover these stories on my own. That brings about a certain distance from the tales, almost more mythological in nature. Since they were never lessons to me, I enjoy them as romantic and fantastic stories without the proverbial Catholic guilt. On the other hand, I am not moved by their spirituality most of the time. So I really love to hear your interpretations since they help me to understand from that side.
I don't think my interpretation is that specific. For me, most of Kate's music comes from many influences and ideas, and the remaining creation is an entirely new theme. In this case, I think it's the desire remove the complex emotions, poetry, confusion, seduction, and deception from relationships (particularly between men and women) and have a pure, passionate relationship, one of romantic fantasy. If he can do this for her, she can be everything to him. It's a weariness about love and loneliness, and sexual comfort. I think very similar to what Sheila explains.
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Post by Sto on Dec 27, 2003 21:18:51 GMT
Sheila, I can really believe that you both based your songs on the same thing. It's a great passage, isn't it? And thanks to Zan and Sheila for answering my question. I really was quite ignorant about this song, despite adoring it. I listen to it with new light now! "Stay me with flagons, Comfort me with apples, For I am sick of love."
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Post by Neo Stella on Dec 28, 2003 11:10:54 GMT
Zan, your contribution to this board is fascinating. Also the work you have put in is truly wonderful, with great Love. Thankyou on behalf of us all.
I am particularly interested in your observation of Kate's "psychological journey" because for all of us it is only possible to speculate. Even if we had a personal relationship with her, would we ever know for sure the true nature of the journey she is on?
I, like many fans, share some of her journey, that is why she has been such an important part of my life.
If my dream/fantasy takes a further twist, then mental artifacts collected on this "psychological journey" will prove to be vital for the challenges that lie ahead.
Lessons learned in former lives, whether true or imagined, can influence decisions made in this one.
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Post by Xanadu on Jan 9, 2004 0:13:57 GMT
Zan, your contribution to this board is fascinating. Also the work you have put in is truly wonderful, with great Love. Thankyou on behalf of us all. I'm sorry for not responding sooner, New. I just now read this post. I am really so moved that anyone here feels this way or appreciates my offerings. Your appreciation and further enjoyment of Kate's music is the only thanks I'll ever really need. And, wait... I'm just getting warmed up! I am particularly interested in your observation of Kate's "psychological journey" because for all of us it is only possible to speculate. Even if we had a personal relationship with her, would we ever know for sure the true nature of the journey she is on? I'm glad you mentioned that and are interested. I sometimes have a hard time conveying my feeling about it. I don't really speculate about the "actual" journey of discovery she's on. It's the journey of an intelligent and complex woman. I can identify with that, I suppose. I don't think even Kate herself is aware of how personal her albums have been, if you look closely at the broad strokes (if you follow me).I, like many fans, share some of her journey, that is why she has been such an important part of my life. Agreed! I am constantly working on explaining this. I guess in the end, I lay out all the details and hope my thoughts come through, much like Kate... maybe But, I'll keep this mind for you New.
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Post by Sto on Jan 25, 2004 20:27:59 GMT
I was just thinking about a line that crops up with similar wording in a few of the songs from "The Red Shoes" era. We have 'The Song Of Solomon': "I'll do it for you, I'll be Rose of Sharon for you..." 'You Want Alchemy': "And they'll do it, they'll do it for you"'Show Me A Little Devotion': "Just tell me what it is Then I can do it "
Al', your username seems quite appropraite here. Lots of altruism going on - or, at least, doing things for others, whether they be selfish or not. So what was Kate saying? Did she feel obliged to give something, despite being at a low period in her life? Any ideas?
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Post by Lori on Jan 25, 2004 23:07:57 GMT
I'll be Rose of Sharon for you..." Hey I've never noticed these lyrics before. What's 'Rose of Sharon'?
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Post by Al Truest on Jan 26, 2004 14:00:24 GMT
I was just thinking about a line that crops up with similar wording in a few of the songs from "The Red Shoes" era. We have 'The Song Of Solomon': "I'll do it for you, I'll be Rose of Sharon for you..." 'You Want Alchemy': "And they'll do it, they'll do it for you"'Show Me A Little Devotion': "Just tell me what it is Then I can do it "
Al', your username seems quite appropraite here. Lots of altruism going on - or, at least, doing things for others, whether they be selfish or not. So what was Kate saying? Did she feel obliged to give something, despite being at a low period in her life? Any ideas? Sto', to me these sentiments are about pro-active and sometimes selfless giving. I'll post something on each song board. Maybe we can all draw some conclusions. BTW: Lori Rose of Sharon, is not actually a rose but an exotic blossom known as 'Hybiscus Syriacus'. Kate uses imagery of the delicate beauty of flowers throughout the song,
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