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Post by brillo69 on Jun 25, 2004 20:16:38 GMT
Maybe I should only post when it's extremely necessary? Or at least take time off?
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Post by brillo69 on Jun 25, 2004 20:19:08 GMT
I can't help feeling that I'm being used as a scapegoat. I was in a good mood until now.
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Post by strabley on Jun 25, 2004 20:20:16 GMT
Oh my. Oh my indeed. Talk about taking the cake. Ship's a goin DOWN! The 3 people that voted for Paul--they wouldn't be the same person voting thrice, would they?
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Post by brillo69 on Jun 25, 2004 20:27:04 GMT
Oh my. Oh my indeed. Talk about taking the cake. Ship's a goin DOWN! The 3 people that voted for Paul--they wouldn't be the same person voting thrice, would they? What does it matter? What ever happened to this 'My contributions are valuable' crap? Obviously others think differently. (Yes, maybe I AM too sensitive.)
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 25, 2004 20:28:45 GMT
Oh my. Oh my indeed. Talk about taking the cake. Ship's a goin DOWN! The 3 people that voted for Paul--they wouldn't be the same person voting thrice, would they? At least one of those votes was not cast by me or my 'friends'. I voted ''too sensitive'' What does it matter. I made my point and I stick by it. It's the truth, so why should I apologize.
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Post by strabley on Jun 25, 2004 20:35:30 GMT
Arrogant jerks never have to apologize, do they? I'm reminded of a quote I believe it was Graucho Marx "I would never join a club that would accept me as a member" It seems to apply here.
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Post by brillo69 on Jun 25, 2004 20:38:20 GMT
Considering that aren't that many regulars here, it kind of narrows it down, doesn't it.
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 25, 2004 20:39:44 GMT
What does it matter? What ever happened to this 'My contributions are valuable' crap? Obviously others think differently. (Yes, maybe I AM too sensitive.) Insult me if you must. But I don't want to have a public display of pettiness. I regret what has happened. I have more time and effort in this board than anyone, so of course I hate what has transpired. No one can deny that people are leaving. Is it me?...maybe. Or could it be that obsessive and 'pesty' posting wears thin, dispite efforts to control it. There is a track record on two other forums where this behavior is a deterent. Like I said, I'm only being honest. My encouragement was not contrived. I took pride in what behavior modification took place; however, I'm bored and discouraged. So without being melodramatic, I thought you guys deserved an explanation as to why I've retired.
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Post by brillo69 on Jun 25, 2004 20:43:56 GMT
Fuck this fucking shit.
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Post by Adey on Jun 26, 2004 0:57:48 GMT
Very sad all round..If this is the end of this forum, then let us all retain whatever dignity we can muster. Out of respect for each other, in acknowledgement of the relationships we have formed here, because of the insights we have acquired - sometimes in adversity and sometimes in the spirit of extraordinary comradeship, for all of this I ask for an end to the rock throwing and bitterness. Ultimately Lori will decide if the forum is a dead duck, though I have to acknowledge that it is only what it's members make of it. Anything else is just dots in cyberspace. I regret the actual or impending departure of certain luminaries, but will always applaud the footsoldiers. Mayhap I will continue to post with ALL of you in some form or other. I'm taking a rest for a day or two - guess I'll look at the forum after that and see what sort of shape it's in. Whatever happens, I don't personally regret a single moment of the time I have spent here - especially whatever small efforts I have made to try and hold things together. One other point (though it may seem pointless at this moment in time), never turn your backs on the possibility of reconciliation. As fellow human beings if nothing else. I express my affection for you all..
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Post by ~ Rocket's Tail ~ on Jun 26, 2004 1:17:38 GMT
*shrug* too polite = too boring At other communities I belong to, we're having regular orgies and debates with fully-fledged swearing and beatings (albeit no porn, but that's not what's keeping the members in, and not my bag anyway ). And, you know, some of those members aren't even fans of whatever subject, but they don't have to be. It's not all concentrated talk on one subject, nor is it loads of concerntrated talk on everything else. People are free to post their problems about toilet roll, or who they met in the bus station, and at the same time, there is talk about the subject in question. The atmosphere is altogether easier, and with mods simply being there and deleting/locking threads as necessary, making layout changes etc., it feels like there are a lot less "rules." This forum firstly needs to condense the number of boards it has, so that info can be mostly in one concentrated place, so you're not constantly jumping about. It then has to realise that it's everyone's board: it doesn't belong to any one member or group of members, regardless of post count, how long they have been established here or moderation powers. It is here for everyone: long-time members, relatively new folk, people who've made one or two posts and EVEN (yes, EVEN) the guests! And finally, and maybe most of all, it needs to ease up a bit. Jeez! It's just healthy to want to curse or talk shite every now and again. It can't be sugarcoated. Life's not like that, and I refuse to believe that you're all living with paper bags over your heads (well, most of you ) So, my two cents. Flame me for it if you want, because, to be honest, I've given up caring about other peoples' opinions of what I think. I know these ideas work, and if you don't believe me, go check out all the boards out there with 300,000+ posts...
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Post by Xanadu on Jun 26, 2004 18:47:12 GMT
Very sad all round..let us all retain whatever dignity we can muster. Out of respect for each other, in acknowledgement of the relationships we have formed here, because of the insights we have acquired - sometimes in adversity and sometimes in the spirit of extraordinary comradeship, for all of this I ask for an end to the rock throwing and bitterness. it is only what it's members make of it. Anything else is just dots in cyberspace. I regret the actual or impending departure of certain luminaries, but will always applaud the footsoldiers. Whatever happens, I don't personally regret a single moment of the time I have spent here - especially whatever small efforts I have made to try and hold things together. never turn your backs on the possibility of reconciliation. I express my affection for you all.. I couldn't express these thoughts any better than Adey, so I have just highlighted the points I most agree with... It then has to realise that it's everyone's board: it doesn't belong to any one member or group of members, regardless of post count, how long they have been established here or moderation powers. It is here for everyone: long-time members, relatively new folk, people who've made one or two posts and EVEN (yes, EVEN) the guests! I know these ideas work, and if you don't believe me, go check out all the boards out there with 300,000+ posts... And as for RT's points, I agree with some of it, but not in part. Personally, I think this forum should be locked completely to guests, and only viewable by registered members (see Extraordinary Girl - Alison Moyet, where she posts, or Julee Cruise, where she also posts.) A screening for membership is required to even access them. And I don't want to be a part of a board with over 300,000 posts. I don't want to be lost in the shuffle and unable to keep up the with the interesting posts. Keep the chit-chat to generic boards on the forum and the interesting stuff separate. That's why I haven't joined boards like that, and why I was here, instead of anywhere else. I miss the old missing members, I'll miss the regulars.... I miss the intellectual discussions, silly pictures, personal anecdotes, trivia that was never trivial , funny nicknames, sharing how Kate touched us, and relationships that developed. Whatever happens, for a brief moment, this was something positive to be proud of and I will always remember that.
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 26, 2004 19:52:13 GMT
I miss the old missing members, I'll miss the regulars.... I miss the intellectual discussions, silly pictures, personal anecdotes, trivia that was never trivial , funny nicknames, sharing how Kate touched us, and relationships that developed. Whatever happens, for a brief moment, this was something positive to be proud of and I will always remember that. How can I not respond here? That is what I miss as well. This board is not for everyone. People, including myself, leave when they don 't like the atmosphere. If that climate returns, so will I. However, a violation of Proboard's terms of service has occured. A threat to sink this forum has been made on the XIV board. Being an astute judge of character, this childish act does not surprise me. If this happens, I will persue legal action. We are inclusive here to a fault. In so doing, we attract the obsessive and the psychologically needy. However pompous this sounds it's true. We gave an ear and expressed our opinions. When the tone changed and people left, I got fed up. True colors shone through. I can live with my honesty. I will visit and read when I can. If you guys build it back, I would like to return if I am welcome. I'll not turn my back on this forum.
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Post by Adey on Jun 27, 2004 2:08:09 GMT
Hmm, this patient still shows signs of life. Reports of it's imminent demise were clearly premature..
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Post by Adey on Jun 27, 2004 2:41:24 GMT
I won't bother to quote RT's thoughts on what makes a good Board, but I thank him for bringing them here. I have every respect for your opinions RT, but can't agree with these. I don't doubt that they are a recipe for success, but I lean more towards Xan's view. This is a specialist rather than general interest forum. If that makes us non inclusive, then thats unfortunate. Thanks anyway. And thank you for posting at a time when I needed to see someone/anyone! else still contributing. You couldn't know it, but you helped keep me on the Board.
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