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Post by Xanadu on May 31, 2003 23:00:41 GMT
I can't really say that I "discovered" Kate Bush. It just happened one day.
I have been a Peter Gabriel fan for years and was aware of her connection to him, also loved her vocals on his songs. Gabriel himself had given credit to Kate for the general sound of Don't Give Up (a true collaboration) and she thanked him in the liner notes of Never For Ever.
I always thought to myself "I should like Kate Bush," but I was never really exposed to much of her music otherwise. I had just never sought anything, but I did like what I'd heard.
Now, I must have seen She's Having a Baby nearly 100 times (thanks to cable TV) and even loved the songs in the film. One day, a few years ago, it was on STARZ in the background while I cleaned my kitchen. This Woman's Work came on, and I stopped to listen (like I usually do) and it hit me for the first time! This must be Kate Bush! I rushed to the local CD store to buy whatever CD that song was on and they had NOTHING!
So, I mentioned it to my husband and he brought me home The Whole Story, but sadly without that song. However, with amazing coincidence, I had just finished reading Wuthering Heights and that was the first song. I have been hooked ever since!
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Post by Lori on May 31, 2003 23:57:17 GMT
The Whole Story was my first album too, but I think it's no where near her best. And isn't it supposed to be like a greatest hits album featuring all the highlights of Kate?
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 1, 2003 0:17:46 GMT
X76, I too am a big Peter Gabriel fan. My interest in his work however grew from his collaborations with Kate Bush' (whom was already my favorite artists.) Kind of the same as your scenario, only different
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Post by Sto on Jun 1, 2003 8:57:11 GMT
Peter Gabriel has never been territory into which I've entered before, but I keep telling myself to buy one of his albums and see what I think and I will one day! I've expressed in the past my negativity towards "The Whole Story", I just don't think it sums Kate up. The songs are excellent but it doesn't quite flow like a proper album. "This Woman's Work" is a great song to start to get to know Kate with though
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Post by Lori on Jun 1, 2003 17:56:32 GMT
I've expressed in the past my negativity towards "The Whole Story", I just don't think it sums Kate up. The songs are excellent but it doesn't quite flow like a proper album. I couldn't agree with you more SS
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Post by Xanadu on Jun 3, 2003 17:46:31 GMT
I agree that The Whole Story is just an overview, not good as an entire album, but then again many greatest hits are not. I think it accomplished it's task by giving me a sampling of the different material that she has written - from The Dreaming & Sat in Your Lap to Running Up That Hill and Wuthering Heights. The 1997 remaster of Hounds of Love was my next album with the B-sides. Then the entire box set, followed by anything else I could get my hands on! I think TWS does what Peter Gabriel's Shaking the Tree does not - samples the early and later material to show the creative arc of the career. Gabriel doesn't touch on much material earlier than Gabriel 3 and does new arrangements of some of the older songs. I really do believe if you love Kate, you should try to listen to some Gabriel. I think eventually you'll find the paths of their careers amazingly similar (even the absence from 1993-present!) If there are any Gabriel fans out there interested in this discussion - the comparison of Bush and Gabriel - I'm open to suggestion!
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 3, 2003 23:28:45 GMT
Peter Gabriel has been a dear friend to Kate Bush for decades now. He is part of her tight inner circle. Their mutual admiration is evident in their collaborations and in their philosophies.
Both have incredible vision about their art. It may take years for the mainstream to pick up on their esoteric presentations. They are willing to take risks and collaborate with artists from varied cultural backgrounds. I admire them both for broadening my horizons.
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 7, 2003 17:22:11 GMT
X76 (I may start calling you Zan, 'cos X76 sounds so inhuman ) Anyway, Zan, I was wondering if you were familar with Peter Gabriel's collaboration with Affrocelts (Afro Celt Sound System)? I just picked up one of their CD's. ("Seed") I loved it immediately.
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Post by Xanadu on Jun 7, 2003 17:54:07 GMT
I only have heard the collaboration on their song "When the World Falls Down." I really enjoyed it. I actually saw Gabriel perform this on a late night show with ACSS and the host referred to Gabriel as responsible for the song. Gabriel, not one much for interviews just silently gestured over to the leader of ACSS to show him who to praise. Is he on anything else on the album? I was interested in getting a copy, what are your opinions of it? Another thing! I hope you can appreciate this Altruest! I just obtained a copy of Kate's 1979 special with guest Peter Gabriel! I have their performance of Just Another Day on it! It's really a very good copy. I had it on CD before, but I had never seen the performance. She also introduces him as the "Angel Gabriel" before he performs my favorite song of his "Here Comes the Flood!" It's so exciting for me to add this to my collection!
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 7, 2003 21:18:50 GMT
Hey 'Zan (I'm going for the phonetic spelling ), I am not aware of any other project between ACSS and PG. I hope I wasn't misleading. I just happened to see the Peter Gabriel credit on the CD label. I have not listened much yet, 'cos I really liked the "Seed" release better at first. (I'm a rhythm and percussion freak ) Yeah, I love rare finds. Several months ago, my entire collection of music was stolen. I've replaced all but the rarities. I do find them now and again e.g. 'Aspects of the Sensual World" I'll post again after absorbing more knowledge.
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Post by Vix on Aug 15, 2004 12:06:12 GMT
Hey I'm new here. And may I just say that it's great to see so many PG fans amongst you! Peter is my hero! I have always known Kate Bush really, my parents were often playing her records. And in some ways, that was how I became aware of Gabriel. But, I always just thought of him as "that guy who sings with Kate Bush", I was totally unaware of his music, and oblivious to the fact that I could explore him. Luckily, I was introduced to his music about a year ago, and I've never looked back. But now, obviously after hearing Don't Give Up, and No Self Control, I thought, "Oh yeah! I love Kate Bush too." So now I'm getting back into her music.
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Post by Adey on Aug 18, 2004 23:16:40 GMT
I guess it's all too easy to say that Kate is the female version of Peter Gabriel and I can understand why folks believe it. I don't think it's a co-incidence that the 2 of them are close friends - there is a synchronicity in their creativity. I prefer to think of them as a matched pair: bookends on a shelf of discovery..
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Post by Neo Stella on Aug 18, 2004 23:22:55 GMT
I guess it's all too easy to say that Kate is the female version of Peter Gabriel and I can understand why folks believe it. I don't think it's a co-incidence that the 2 of them are close friends - there is a synchronicity in their creativity. I prefer to think of them as a matched pair: bookends on a shelf of discovery.. I agree Adey. Why do you think they didn't partner romantically?
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Post by Adey on Aug 18, 2004 23:32:13 GMT
Who can say? Maybe they did have an encounter..
Perhaps they meet intellectually, but the loins remain unstirred..
Perhaps they were the right people at the wrong time - and were always in other relationships..
Perhaps PG wouldn't grow one of those dodgy Del Palmer style moustaches..
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.
I must say I'm not overly curious as to the answer, if we accept the question!
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Post by saloldgal on Nov 14, 2004 17:38:10 GMT
As I implied on another thread, if not for Kate's collaboration with Peter Gabriel, I probably never would have discovered her music.
The weird thing is, "Don't Give Up" is probably my least favorite PG song; for me, it seems insipid compared with the rest of his music (not to mention hers). When I recognized Kate's name while googling one day and clicked the link, I wasn't thinking "Ooooh - it's that Kate Bush who sings with PG on "Don't Give Up!". I actually was thinking "Lets check out this Kate Bush. She's the one who sang that sappy duet with PG... maybe it was her fault".
Within minutes of clicking on that link I realized how inaccurate my impression of Kate had been, and I sensed (correctly) that I was at the door of a "discovery" that would be very important to me.
However, even now that Kate Bush is more to me that a name in some liner notes, I still don't especially enjoy "Don't Give Up". To me, it does nothing to reveal the incredible talent and creativity of either artist. Actually, it makes me think of those "We are the World"-type songs where a bunch of talented yet diverse musicians get together as a choir and sing for a charitable cause. When so many diverse musicians try to "mesh", the result seldom represents the sum of the assembled talents, or even the average of them; typically, it can only represent the common denominator. That said, I think it is possible (though very unusual) for two artists to combine their unique talents to produce something that actually represents MORE than the some of its parts, and I think KB and PG have the potential to do something like that together. I don't think that they did it with "Don't Give Up", but I certainly think they could, and I wish fervently that they would!
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