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Bertie
Oct 5, 2005 9:10:31 GMT
Post by Lori on Oct 5, 2005 9:10:31 GMT
Here comes the sunshine Here comes that son of mine Here comes the everything Here’s a song and a song for him
Sweet kisses Three wishes Lovely Bertie
The most wilful The most beautiful The most truly fantastic smile I’ve ever seen
Sweet kisses Three wishes Lovely Bertie
You bring me so much joy And then you bring me More joy
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Bertie
Oct 21, 2005 0:09:13 GMT
Post by Adey on Oct 21, 2005 0:09:13 GMT
Expect a medieval instrumentation arrangement. No doubt as to the lyrical subject matter. "Here comes the sunshine, here comes that boy of mine.."
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Sheila
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Bertie
Oct 21, 2005 3:59:57 GMT
Post by Sheila on Oct 21, 2005 3:59:57 GMT
I know that you're reticent about this song Xan, and I know what you mean. The day after my nephew was born I wrote a song about him that was "precious" enough to make my mom cry I.E. way too precious. But think of The Fog--a song about her dad. She can pull this off---maybe----I am confident we will not be disappointed yet I see your point. Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven" is the only song I can think of that glorified the child of the songwriter with dignity...
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Sheila
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Bertie
Oct 21, 2005 4:06:02 GMT
Post by Sheila on Oct 21, 2005 4:06:02 GMT
Expect a medieval instrumentation arrangement. No doubt as to the lyrical subject matter. "Here comes the sunshine, here comes that boy of mine.."You've heard the album already, didn't you, you little sneak? Who did you have to blow for this?
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Bertie
Oct 21, 2005 8:23:15 GMT
Post by Adey on Oct 21, 2005 8:23:15 GMT
I wish..
No, picked up the lyrics from a review I read.
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Bertie
Oct 21, 2005 16:59:36 GMT
Post by adyherbz on Oct 21, 2005 16:59:36 GMT
where?
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Bertie
Oct 22, 2005 1:18:28 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Oct 22, 2005 1:18:28 GMT
I know that you're reticent about this song Xan, and I know what you mean. The day after my nephew was born I wrote a song about him that was "precious" enough to make my mom cry I.E. way too precious. But think of The Fog--a song about her dad. She can pull this off---maybe----I am confident we will not be disappointed yet I see your point. Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven" is the only song I can think of that glorified the child of the songwriter with dignity... Oh, hope still remains Sheila. If it is possible, she would be one of the few. I am really only concerned that it seems so literal. For example... I really like Suzanne Vega's "Birthday" and "World Before Columbus" which are both vaguely about the giving birth to something difficult, and how precious that thing/being is to you. But there is a little more metaphor. I could be beautiful... we'll have to be patient a little longer yet. Perhaps the concern comes from my lack of the materal gene.
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Bertie
Oct 22, 2005 3:05:28 GMT
Post by stev0 on Oct 22, 2005 3:05:28 GMT
Hey, I like John Lennon's "Beautiful Boy".
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Bertie
Oct 23, 2005 7:26:21 GMT
Post by matanchik on Oct 23, 2005 7:26:21 GMT
there is also "isn't she lovely" by stevie wonder
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Bertie
Nov 3, 2005 21:40:11 GMT
Post by maddog on Nov 3, 2005 21:40:11 GMT
Here's Kate's comments on "Bertie" from the interview clip on the BBC Radio 2 Ken Bruce show today:
How much did having a child have an influence on making "Aerial"?
I think it's all over it. He's such a big part of my life so he's a very big part of my work. It's such a great thing being able to spend as much time with him as I can and, you know, he won't be very young for long. Already he's starting to grow up and I wanted to make sure that I didn't miss out on that. I spent as much time with him as I could and so the idea was that he would come first and then the record would come next, which is also one reason why it's taken a long time. It always takes me a long time anyway but I tried to fit that in around the edges that were left over from the time that I wanted to spend with him. It's a wonderful thing, having such a lovely son. Really, with a song like that it could never be special enough from my point of view and I wanted to try and give it an arrangement that wasn't terribly obvious so I went for the sort of "early music".
The song itself is definitely "medieval" in style with what sounds like a harpsichord on there...I like it! My favourite apart from KOTM so far.
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Bertie
Nov 8, 2005 18:52:04 GMT
Post by Al Truest on Nov 8, 2005 18:52:04 GMT
In the liner notes pictures there are two pictures* of Bertie. He looks just like Kate! He is a sweet looking child. Unless you are a parent it may be hard to know the joy that children can bring. * (Mom is hovering nearby in the underwater shot. Replete, I might add, with zoftig flotation apparatus.) ;D BTW, it is a shame that I seem to have a larger vocabulary than the Proboards spellcheck.
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Bertie
Nov 8, 2005 23:09:05 GMT
Post by Sto on Nov 8, 2005 23:09:05 GMT
According to the Oxford English DIctionary Online, zoftig/zaftig is US colloq for "Of a woman: plump, curvaceous, ‘sexy’. " I find it slightly odd that Kate appears in this way next to Bertie, on the page dedicated to a song about her dead mother. But then it makes absolute sense at the same time and I can't quite see why... (obviously the mother/child link - and does anyone else see a link to "Just put your feet down, child?" in 'The Fog'?..)
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Bertie
Nov 8, 2005 23:31:50 GMT
Post by Al Truest on Nov 8, 2005 23:31:50 GMT
According to the Oxford English DIctionary Online, zoftig/zaftig is US colloq for "Of a woman: plump, curvaceous, ‘sexy’." The etymology is actually from a Yiddish root word meaning juicy or plump as in fruit. A variant of Old High and Middle German root words further define a pleasingly round and supple breast or feminine figure. It is not amongst the words in our spellcheck however. I really did not think of it as odd or necessarily even intentionally sexy. It is what it is. Kate Bush 'be lookin good' nonetheless. What we take of it is from our own perspective. I thought it was probably offensive of me to notice. But, 'just being honest. Edit: If there are spelling errors here it is because the 'spellcheck' feauture is not working for me now. (it's mad at me) ;D
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Bertie
Mar 17, 2006 19:59:46 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Mar 17, 2006 19:59:46 GMT
and does anyone else see a link to "Just put your feet down, child?" in 'The Fog'?..) Completely. I listened to The Fog again last night and thought about some connections. I'm glad I found this today. Where have you been? It's really a shame that Kate doesn't revisit her past material, since you really get the impression that she has been on a path. That's probably because I made thematic KB CDs to enjoy on a regular basis, so it becomes more apparent. Sto, I have found some more connections we can share. Stop by when you get a chance. Since we are on the Bertie thread, I can't say this has grown on me yet. Actually, at the risk of being stoned, I re-arranged Aerial to suit my needs a little better. I listen to it completely when I have the time. At the moment, I am listening to Irish folk tunes for the holiday. I can't help but wish the sentiment had been more one like Wee Hughie or Danny Boy. The music is exquisite, but I can't relate to such a personal song in that way. I suppose I resond to melancholy better, hmm? It seems more transcendent to me. ::taking cover from the stones:: ;D
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Bertie
Mar 18, 2006 0:28:19 GMT
Post by Adey on Mar 18, 2006 0:28:19 GMT
I suppose I resond to melancholy better, hmm? It seems more transcendent to me. ::taking cover from the stones:: ;D Hardly necessary - I'm sure that complete adoration of all her material is not strictly obligatory!I too am a fan of the melancholic, but I'm also a Bertie fan. I'm an admirer of music from the renaissance & baroque eras so the arrangement - that you rightly describe as exquisite - could hardly miss my personal bullseye. As for the sentiments, what the hell - this old cynic lets his guard down every now & then, and they are expressed in such an unusual musical manner. It's still poignant, but in a major rather than minor emotional key..
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