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Post by saloldgal on Sept 4, 2005 4:50:43 GMT
The thought "What if it sucks?" is so scary I can't even accept that as an option! I guess this thought doesn't scare me because it seems so unlikely. The only thought that scares me is that it won't be treated fairly by the critics and media due to her long absence and their frequent bias against older performers. That would really tick me off. I just can't imagine that this album could be anything BUT great. Presumably, she has taken the time to get in the right frame of mind and make it what she wants. But perhaps more importantly, she has lived life for 12 more years and has been through the whole having-a-child thing: "trying" (most likely), expecting, giving birth, nurturing, rearing, worrying... potty training, bless her ... She must have experienced so many new things in these years, and I would expect her music to benefit from it. That said, I do think that anyone who has narrow expectations for her new album (i.e. that it will sound like their favorite album to date) might be disappointed. Considering the diversity among her previous albums and all the life experience she must have gained during all these years, it seems unlikely that this album will simply be an encore. I have my own favorites among her previous albums, but when this one arrives I hope to hear it with a completely open mind. Maybe it will become my new favorite!
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Post by stev0 on Sept 5, 2005 0:36:58 GMT
Two points I'd like to make:
1) People have such high expectations for this album that if it ISN'T the Best Album Ever Made, there will be a LOT of unhappy folk (real life example: all the people who hate The Red Shoes and The Sensual World - two fine albums in my opinion but angered a lot of folks who wanted Hounds Of Love II). Although I have no doubt this will be another wonderful album, there is no way it can live up to the expectations most people are putting in their own heads right now. Mark my words - there will be more than one post saying "We waited 12 years for THIS?"
2) I don't care if the entire album is just Kate going "check, check 1-2. Is this thing on?" - I'm still going to buy it anyway and play it to death.
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Post by Adey on Sept 5, 2005 12:40:46 GMT
Even if only half of the album is enjoyed by half of her audience, we KB fans just can't lose. Releasing something under par does not make the previous recordings null & void. The Dreaming & Hounds of Love will still be sublime music, and there will be something on the new album for everyone. New music and her reputation still intact - as I say we can't lose.. I've no intention of worrying about the album before it's even released, though of course I celebrate it's imminent arrival. Brilliant or ordinary, I'll deal with it when it's in my hands and not before. It's this weight of expectation that can destroy the most brilliant of artists and render them incapable of work. So with all due respect to the speculators and worry warts (and I appreciate that these thoughts are entirely understandable after such a period of apparent inactivity) I personally won't be a part of any potential problem.. Looking forward to the new album? - but of course..
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Post by matanchik on Sept 5, 2005 12:57:10 GMT
i don't think it will be similar to the dreaming or HOL. A woman who scream, yell and makes donky noises at age 47 seems very unlikely to me
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Post by stev0 on Sept 5, 2005 16:39:52 GMT
Y'know, the most of the people on this forum seem pretty level-headed. I have no worry about us.
However, people on another Kate forum (ahem) seem to KNOW this will be the Bestest Album in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD because it's going to sound JUST LIKE (insert your favorite Kate album here)! Except BETTER!
If you think I'm sarcastic on THIS forum, you should see me THERE!
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Post by W.HI.P on Sept 5, 2005 19:11:40 GMT
people on another Kate forum (ahem) seem to KNOW this will be the Bestest Album in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD because it's going to sound JUST LIKE (insert your favorite Kate album here)! Except BETTER! I don't think it's too far fetched for people to believe that Aerial may as well be the best album of all time... after all, she did produce The Dreaming, Hounds of Love and the Sensual World. IMO The Dreaming IS the best album of all time, so why not surpass it? If anyone's gonna make a better album than the Dreaming...why not the Goddess herself? I must mention that I expected something different than the Red shoes when it came out... Disapointed is not the word, however, for some reason, I don't believe Aerial will be anything like the red shoes, or any other of Catherines albums. I have extremely high expectations for this album, and I really doubt that I will ever be disapointed from it. 12 years has certainly changed her musically. I predict ALL Kate fans who listen to this new album will be very suprised at this new sound
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Post by stev0 on Sept 5, 2005 20:30:28 GMT
That's the whole point - I *DO* want to be surprised by the new sound! That's what I love about Kate - no two of her albums sound anything alike (which is also why Lionheart is my least favorite Kate album - it sounds like TKI Lite). Unfortunately, for many people "new" = "bad" (which is why The Red Shoes got the pummeling it initially did).
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 5, 2005 22:28:17 GMT
That's the whole point - I *DO* want to be surprised by the new sound! That's what I love about Kate - no two of her albums sound anything alike (which is also why Lionheart is my least favorite Kate album - it sounds like TKI Lite). Unfortunately, for many people "new" = "bad" (which is why The Red Shoes got the pummeling it initially did). How's this for a new genre - 'Ethereal - World -Zydeco - Jazz fusion? ;D
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 5, 2005 22:32:26 GMT
i don't think it will be similar to the dreaming or HOL. A woman who scream, yell and makes donky noises at age 47 seems very unlikely to me Joe Zawinul is in his seventies and still does. He also heads the most athletic band that I know of. BTW, 47 is not that old.
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 5, 2005 22:43:57 GMT
Even if only half of the album is enjoyed by half of her audience, we KB fans just can't lose. Releasing something under par does not make the previous recordings null & void. The Dreaming & Hounds of Love will still be sublime music, and there will be something on the new album for everyone. New music and her reputation still intact - as I say we can't lose.. I've no intention of worrying about the album before it's even released, though of course I celebrate it's imminent arrival. Brilliant or ordinary, I'll deal with it when it's in my hands and not before. It's this weight of expectation that can destroy the most brilliant of artists and render them incapable of work. So with all due respect to the speculators and worry warts (and I appreciate that these thoughts are entirely understandable after such a period of apparent inactivity) I personally won't be a part of any potential problem.. Looking forward to the new album? - but of course..Good points all, and well presented. We should all have better things to do than speculate on this album's impact. But ain't it fun? I have enough experience with the work of Kate Bush to know that this new album will be a work of art. Whether it is to your taste or not will depend on the degree of depth you are willing to explore. There will be references and nuances that will take countless exposures to discover. The journey is more important than the destination. Kate has been under no obligation to produce a 'hit' or meet a deadline. What she is willing to share is an expression of the truth as she has seen it to this point of her life. I will enjoy sharing that experience.
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Post by matanchik on Sept 5, 2005 22:50:55 GMT
i'm not saying kate is old at all, just that she matured and therefore there wil never be another dreaming or HOL. i'm expecting a combination of her early works with the sensual world atmosphere blended with recent electronica that kate allways loved, i wouldn't be suprised if there'll be a techno-tinged track.
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Post by saloldgal on Sept 6, 2005 1:15:11 GMT
I just can't imagine that this album could be anything BUT great. To clarify my statement above: It's actually not that I can't imagine Kate creating something less than "great". I just can't imagine her releasing it. She has high standards and, given her artistic independence, aversion to celebrity and huge personal fortune, she probably has no reason to compromise those standards. If she wasn't satisfied with this album, I doubt she would be releasing it. And so far, what has sastisfied her has impressed the heck out of me. If it doesn't this time, well... read on if you like. I have my own favorites among her previous albums, but when this one arrives I hope to hear it with a completely open mind. Although I hope to resist comparing the new album to the previous ones, my experience with the previous albums is actually a big part of the reason I'm optimistic about the new album. When I first listened to "The Kick Inside", it didn't appeal to me at all; I didn't especially enjoy the style of the music or her voice. However, I still listened to it occasionally and ultimately, I fell in love with it. Since then (and probably because of the stepping stone TKI provided) I have also gained a new appreciation for LH and NFE. Because of this, if Kate's new album doesn't appeal to me initially, that won't surprise me or put me off. I'll give it time to grow on me. If it never does, that will be fine too. Until pretty recently, I figured TRS would be her last album. So anything I get out of this album will amount to an unexpected gift.
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Post by saloldgal on Sept 6, 2005 1:35:19 GMT
i'm not saying kate is old at all, just that she matured and therefore there wil never be another dreaming or HOL. i'm expecting a combination of her early works with the sensual world atmosphere blended with recent electronica that kate allways loved, i wouldn't be suprised if there'll be a techno-tinged track. Or (while we are speculating wildly) maybe it will be "unplugged"... BOTH DISKS!!! Top that!
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Post by saloldgal on Sept 6, 2005 1:44:06 GMT
YEAH!!! (How can it be? After all, I will be 47 years old in just 5 years and 10 days!) P.S. to Mat - I know that's not what you were saying anyway. I'm guessing that some of those dance moves are probably a lot harder at 47 than at 17 too. (BTW, I really mean that guessing part, and it ain't because I'm not 47 yet; I couldn't do those moves even at 17!)
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Post by matanchik on Sept 6, 2005 6:05:35 GMT
Or (while we are speculating wildly) maybe it will be "unplugged"... BOTH DISKS!!! Top that! that will be great too, i'm ready for any offering from her no matter what it will be, even a polka-hip hop album, it surely will be great
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