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Post by Al Truest on Oct 22, 2008 1:48:35 GMT
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Post by Al Truest on Oct 22, 2008 2:25:55 GMT
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Post by Al Truest on Oct 22, 2008 2:45:00 GMT
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Post by Al Truest on Nov 7, 2008 22:34:33 GMT
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 22, 2012 1:25:31 GMT
Yes, that was my guess - that if anything influenced Kate to a significant degree (and I always assumed something must have) that it was cabaret not rock, folk, soul or the other usual suspects. I've only recently begun listening to Lenye and Weill and similar artists and composers and it's been the first time I've heard something that made me think Kate, prior to beginning her musical career, must have been affected by it.
So here is one not so random video, because it's from someone I think sounds very similar to the Kate of TKI and Lionheart. In addition to this big plus, it's also a nice song! Another reason for it being not so random a video is that the group was very much influenced by German cabaret.
Well no, I posted a different one instead, and the singer here doesn't sound like Kate, but it's a nice song too... a Phil Ochs cover.
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 23, 2012 22:35:12 GMT
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 24, 2012 0:31:36 GMT
Okay I actually listened to all of these...well, at least all but John Cage -- whom I skipped from one silent pause to the next.  'a bit too avante garde for me I suppose.  ;D Of the Brazilians, Veloso (aka the Brazilian Dylan)) was the only one I found accessible fairly soon. :::I thought I listened to some obscure stuff.  ;D Yes, I did hear some similarity in tone to Kate in the 60's clip. I must confess to preferring female and tenor voices in general. But ethnic and quirky captures my imagination as well. I will give your selections another shot.  Yes I have seen the Gilmour/Bush "RUTH" (isn't that the one where his guitar has no thumb keys?) Shelagh McDonald reminded me of Joanie Mitchel. But Anne Briggs was my favorite. She reminded me a bit of the Celtic stuff from Sinead O'Connor. (below is one of my favorites from that collection:) "Her Mantle So Green" (2 versions) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se15s7Z5W08www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vZ-S35BvE |
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 24, 2012 1:19:47 GMT
Okay I actually listened to all of these...well, at least all but John Cage -- whom I skipped from one silent pause to the next. 'a bit too avante garde for me I suppose. ;D Oh I've really been getting into his work lately. It's one of the most fascinating things I've encountered in music. I probably should have selected something other than 4' 33''.  Are you in a Dylan phase? This is the 2nd time you've brought him up (in passing, sure) and I don't recall you ever doing so in the past. That's the thing - they're not obscure to most of the world. I say this while noting that until a year or so ago I hadn't heard them either. I'm not saying this to be argumentative. I've been making a concerted effort lately (and it hasn't been a chore since I found out that I actually like a decent percentage of it) to listen to contemporary (i.e. non-classical) music produced outside of the English speaking countries. Costa, Veloso, and Buarque are probably known to a larger percentage of Earth's population than is, say, Steely Dan. Well anyway, someone commented to me how English-centric my music was and how I was missing out on a lot of good artists. I agreed. Great. btw, what did you think of the clip of the band I've been, ya know, TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT - Henry Cow? And as an additional point, the singer in the clip happens to be the one who somewhat resembles Kate in the other clip. Cage and Cow have been my musical highlights of the recent past. Yes. I was very impressed with their performance. Anne Briggs is something else all right, and was an influence on Sandy Denny and the other folk-rock singers of the time. Sinead is an excellent singer and has such a pure voice. I preferred the a capella version. The other one lasts too long at 5.5 minutes. Have you heard her on The Chieftains album The Long Dark Veil? There are multiple guest singers with the best performance, and this I would have bet against prior to hearing it, being turned in by Mick Jagger. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmYg3zwYUyM&feature=related |
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 24, 2012 17:16:22 GMT
Oh I've really been getting into his work lately. It's one of the most fascinating things I've encountered in music. I probably should have selected something other than 4' 33''. Are you in a Dylan phase? This is the 2nd time you've brought him up (in passing, sure) and I don't recall you ever doing so in the past. No. I just pulled that from the comments on the video. Actually I am not a Dylan fan at all. I acknowledge his songwriting ability and is enigmatic idiosyncratic appeal. But his Christmas album should leave no doubt that his voice is crappy.  Point taken. Kind of like Futbol vs Football. But I really do persue a variety of cultural influences and styles. I don't even need to know the language to connect to the spiritual messages being conveyed. Music is its own language. And truth comes through regardles of the origin. Yes. I have listened. I will look for the Kate clone next time. It is growing on me. But not like a wart. I do remember Sandy Denny because of the reference from "Blow Away" Yes I have heard and enjoyed the Chieftans. And yes Mick Jagger is in an odd place. I will post some new music as well... |
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 24, 2012 17:48:59 GMT
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 24, 2012 19:28:50 GMT
The Paddy Bush documentary looked interesting. He looks so young!
I can't say I liked either Miho Hatori or Maria João. I don't like Zydeco (and living next door to Louisiana I already hear more of it than I care to)and although her voice seemed fine that killed my interest right there. With Maria it's the matter of the voice. I suppose I'll just call her Dylan-esque in that regard. Well anyway, different tastes and all...
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Post by Adena on Apr 25, 2012 7:28:10 GMT
I must admit a fondness for Latina music, but could we have a little more Spanish and a little less Portuguese? ;D I am half-Catalonian, and I find Portuguese-language music to have a lot less variety than Spanish, and also to be less accessible. It may be my own area language bias.  I believe I posted Mercedes Sosa singing the Kyrie from Misa Criolla here before. I have also been listening a lot recently to music from my ancestral cultures - Spain and Central America on my father's side, and German, Polish and Russian on my mother's. I was surprised to find a couple of Mexican women still singing in Nahuatl. Unfortunately, it is much harder to find Mayan languages on contemporary music. I don't find German music to my taste, but I have been really apprecating some of the Polish and Russian folk music I've found. Most of it isn't on Youtube, but I may try to compile a list of my favourites. |
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 25, 2012 8:11:17 GMT
I must admit a fondness for Latina music, but could we have a little more Spanish and a little less Portuguese? We can certainly have more Spanish-language music! Here is Victor Jara with Caminando, Caminando: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkAy7VgF2f0Have you heard Ewa Demarczyk? I was going to post a link but it seems as if I've broken youtube. No, it's recovered now. www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyRCGlnLc2Y |
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Post by Adena on Apr 26, 2012 4:23:18 GMT
I must admit a fondness for Latina music, but could we have a little more Spanish and a little less Portuguese? We can certainly have more Spanish-language music! Here is Victor Jara with Caminando, Caminando: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkAy7VgF2f0I'm impressed. I've never heard of him before now. Not that I listen to much music from Chile and Argentina - I mostly play Spanish and Mexican music. I was trying to find the studio recording of Andrés Segovia playing El Testament d'Amelia on Youtube, but I can't. So instead, here is him playing 'Estudio Sin Luz': www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aiitNUuJsAand here is Montserrat Caballé singing 'La violetera' (mainly because this was the only Spanish song I could find her singing - I have others, but they aren't on Youtube): www.youtube.com/watch?v=zScrSsVR75IYes, I have, and some of her stuff is very good. There's a lot of sung poetry that I'm finding in both Polish and Russian. I listened to about 20 different interpretations of Pushkin's Я Вас любил (I loved you) and not two were similar. Surprisingly enough, most were good. Finding actual Russian music that's good, though, is proving to be like searching for a needle in a haystack. There was a Russian love song (a traditional one) that my great-uncle used to play in the day of records which I loved, but I never found out what its name was. I don't even know who was singing the version he had. If I could find that, I'd be happy. |
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 27, 2012 7:54:04 GMT
I'll report back back on the songs you linked. I've heard Segovia certainly though probably not the song in question... and I even have an Andres Segovia guitar tab/instruction book around here somewhere.
Victor Jara was quite the artist... something like the Woody Guthrie of Chile. The Clash referenced him in a song called Washington Bullets and the No More Songs video above is also partially about him. Quite a story...
There is a lot of good Russian classical music, though beyond that I'm clueless about the music of that part of the world. I've placed 'Russia' on The List.
Oh and I love both Mercedes Sosa and Violeta Parra!
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'a bit too avante garde for me I suppose. 
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