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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 25, 2008 13:03:52 GMT
...Living The Dream. What is yours? And does this world deserve it?
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Apr 26, 2008 2:08:43 GMT
We all have a dream... maybe!  I had to think quite a bit about this. I guess it would have to be the dream of creating an artistic work that was truly important, truly taking all of my feelings and thoughts about life, all of my inspirations and imaginings, and binding them together into a cohesive narrative, embodying them in something like my life's masterwork. I feel irresistable compelled to do this - although, I must say, I don't think it's entirely a possible thing. There is always, IMO, more to the universe, more to be recorded, the immense raging dance of existence that we never quite can capture, no matter how much we try. And yet I suppose that's why it's so irresistable. It's a neverending quest, and yet one filled with triumphs, I think. Sorry if that's a bit esoteric, it's a bit of a hard thing to express. :-/But very thought-provoking question. |
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Post by paddy on Apr 26, 2008 2:37:55 GMT
As I read through the varied viewpoints here, I find it remarkable to consider the creativity and sincerity of the contributors. It's testament to the power of Kate's art that it draws together so many fascinating people. But I digress...
I think that you've all given a tremendous amount to consider.
The essence that I am sensing here is of using those gifts that we all have to their fullest potential.
I'll be the first one to admit that I may be getting some of it wrong, I've only given my own perspective. And the more I consider it, the idea that clarity of purpose can be restricting is actually just a relative state of mind. I guess I was thinking this way when considering how one would come to grips with a sense of purpose that may be at odds with what one actually wants out of life. And indeed I have known people who deal with just this conflicted position. At times it's been me.
Confession time: I guess it is a case of sour grapes - for me at least. I admit to feeling a bit of envy when I see people with a clearer sense of purpose than that which I have.
Nonetheless, it's something that is stuck in my mind now (for better or worse!). ;-)
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Post by paddy on Apr 26, 2008 2:45:11 GMT
Sorry if that's a bit esoteric, it's a bit of a hard thing to express. :-/But very thought-provoking question. Not esoteric at all to me. You obviously have a gift for self-expression, and I think it's wonderful that this is at the core of your sense of purpose. You've touched upon the fundamental struggle in art - to strive for that creation which is perfect. But the perfection will always be a matter of relative perspective. There are never absolutes. But you certainly do have a remarkable sensibility about this. My suspicion is that you'll reach that goal, at least in the context of a particular moment. |
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Apr 26, 2008 15:15:33 GMT
^Thank you, Paddy. I agree that perfection is quite relative, and I think that really all we can get of it is 'a glimpse of a god' in the eternal mystery, IMO, if we are open to inspiration. But that in itself is such a marvellous thing. I really hope I do get as far as to be able to create a synthesis or completion of work that, even though it isn't the end of my 'wanting it all', could be one step closer to the goal.  |
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Post by tannis on Apr 27, 2008 3:21:08 GMT
Q: And, finally, are you a recluse and publicity-shy enigma?
KB: That does amuse me. Well, the reclusive thing is because I don't go clubbing and I don't do a lot of publicity. I'm a quiet, private person who has managed to hang around for a few years. Ridiculous really. I didn't think it would be like this. All I wanted to do was make an album. That was the dream. I'd been writing songs since I was little and I just wanted to see them on an album. This was my purpose in life - to just look at grooves and think, I did that. And then from my first record my life was very dramatically changed. My music was popular instantly. Its pressure. You can't quietly get on with it. But it was so exciting. My life was turned upside down very fast when I was very young. I was quite a way down the road before I got a chance to look back. At the time it just all seemed like a laugh. That was healthy, though. Keep laughing and you stand a chance of getting through it alive.Kate bush: Q magazine interview December 1993.www.paradiseplace.org.uk/Kate/Katep3.html
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Post by Neo Stella on Apr 27, 2008 17:44:45 GMT
Rosa,
the moment you have it all is the moment you realise who you are:
The Eternal Creator living out another of your infinite creations...I think, therefore I am...wherever I look I find myself expressing existence in never-ending ways...happy in my misery...in heaven and in hell...loving, hating, caring, killing, waiting, acting, lying, dreaming, opposing...remembering why I created it all...
...to experience thyself
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Apr 27, 2008 17:57:08 GMT
^ That's a wonderful description, for me, of it feels when one is truly inspired and in harmony with the immense power of inspiration. It's almost as if one can channel the greater creative power of the universe, and embody 'The Eternal Creator', as you said. |
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Post by Adena on Apr 28, 2008 13:31:50 GMT
My dream in life would be to see myself step on the white side of the world again. I miss being on the white side of the world. Although I would lose a much more profound view on Kate's songs. |
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 28, 2008 22:04:07 GMT
My dream in life would be to see myself step on the white side of the world again. I miss being on the white side of the world. Although I would lose a much more profound view on Kate's songs. What do you mean? |
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Apr 28, 2008 22:06:06 GMT
Yes, Adena, I was also a bit puzzled by this... Care to explain further?
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Post by Adena on Apr 30, 2008 10:10:51 GMT
'Life is split into two sides - the light and the dark. One who walks in the light is one with good thoughts and happiness. Those who walk in the dark are those who struggle.'
I have so far managed to keep myself free of major issues, but I witnessed some very traumatic events for myself and my sister. My dream in life is, in short, to be able to stop having to struggle with what I witnessed and decisions I made. In essence, I walk on the dark side because I have to struggle to keep myself where I am and not slip into total thought oblivion.
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 30, 2008 15:27:04 GMT
'Life is split into two sides - the light and the dark. One who walks in the light is one with good thoughts and happiness. Those who walk in the dark are those who struggle.' I don't think it is that simple. What is dark for you may not be to me and vice versa. Each of us has a moral compass that guides our path. Fear, ignorance or bad experience can shade the circumstances for sure. But empowerment through knowlege and intent can shine a light on the darker side. There is, like you say, a choice. But I think we should maximize our potential for happiness through introspection and selfless action. You are in control more than you know. (MO) |
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Post by Adena on May 1, 2008 10:16:59 GMT
'Life is split into two sides - the light and the dark. One who walks in the light is one with good thoughts and happiness. Those who walk in the dark are those who struggle.' I don't think it is that simple. What is dark for you may not be to me and vice versa. Each of us has a moral compass that guides our path. Fear, ignorance or bad experience can shade the circumstances for sure. But empowerment through knowlege and intent can shine a light on the darker side. There is, like you say, a choice. But I think we should maximize our potential for happiness through introspection and selfless action. Each person has their light side and their dark side. Each of us also has a crossing point. The light and dark side are not universally defined, as my sister would say. She and I have very different ideas of when we walk in the light as opposed to the dark. We all struggle with our own personal things. What is a struggle for me is quite often a delight to my sister, and same goes the other way. Light can be shone in the dark, dark can cloud the light. But in essence, they are different places. I'm not sure of the bounds of my control quite yet, but there have been times I have been sorely tempted to give up the ghost. |
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Post by rosabelbelieve on May 1, 2008 20:50:34 GMT
Interesting discussion here... I would say that life does contain a polarity of 'light and dark', as it contains so many pairs of opposites - yet both are truly so essential to a balanced existence. The aim, I think, is to find a way to reconcile them. Adena, I'm really sorry that you have been through some very traumatic things. The pain of that is not something I would ever try to belittle, and I wish you the best for happiness. But, in Kate's words, "Without the hurting, we'd never change." Without an equipoise of darkness and light, sorrow and joy, in life, how would we truly be able to recognize beauty and happiness where they do exist? It's all a part of the tapestry of the universe, in all of its mystery, terror, and beauty. I'm sure that you are a stronger and wiser person for whatever you may have gone through, and that you will be able to find happiness in life. This is something I've actually been thinking a lot about lately... I might head over to the Universal Code thread to elaborate, later. |
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I had to think quite a bit about this. I guess it would have to be the dream of creating an artistic work that was truly important, truly taking all of my feelings and thoughts about life, all of my inspirations and imaginings, and binding them together into a cohesive narrative, embodying them in something like my life's masterwork. I feel irresistable compelled to do this - although, I must say, I don't think it's entirely a possible thing. There is always, IMO, more to the universe, more to be recorded, the immense raging dance of existence that we never quite can capture, no matter how much we try. And yet I suppose that's why it's so irresistable. It's a neverending quest, and yet one filled with triumphs, I think. 
