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Post by Al Truest on Feb 23, 2006 23:25:06 GMT
Click HERE for a plethora of Kate Bush videos. Post a link to your favorites and start a discussion.
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Post by Xanadu on Feb 24, 2006 0:10:09 GMT
Click HERE for a plethora of Kate Bush videos. Post a link to your favorites and start a discussion. I'd like to mention something, not exactly based on these videos, but some footage I have seen overall. Does it seem like she begins to lose the enthusiasm for performance dramatically at a certain point? Particularly live performance. I have seen some footage where I am uncomfortable watching her because she seems so. Some of the charm of the early footage is the abandon in which she performs. She seems full of innocent spirit and youth, but her performances later seem nuanced with awareness and control. Does anyone else see this and agree, or would like to discuss? I don't think this is only age that has made the difference.
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Post by Al Truest on Feb 24, 2006 2:04:55 GMT
Click HERE for a plethora of Kate Bush videos. Post a link to your favorites and start a discussion. I'd like to mention something, not exactly based on these videos, but some footage I have seen overall. Does it seem like she begins to lose the enthusiasm for performance dramatically at a certain point? Particularly live performance. I have seen some footage where I am uncomfortable watching her because she seems so. I can see a definitive waning in enthusiasm as her career progresses, at least as far as performances and especially public promotions. The interview from hell, among the video clips from the aforementioned links here, is painful to watch. Kate's disdain for inept and uninformed questions is palpable. Her early exuberance was wonderful to watch. Perhaps the Tour of Life and the subsequent death of Bill Duffield tarnished her enthusiasm. The grueling schedule and the baring of so much personal and emotional energy may have sent her forever to the studio. What a pity. That's why the early videos are so great for me. I hate the fact that she may wish they would disappear; but, these are gems to us - trumping her, IMO, desire to control the early image. I jumped the gun a bit in my earlier comments, but to continue here; I think it is much more than age. The tour, the prodding and her ever increasing penchant for perfection that made her withdraw has sealed her aura and mystique that may prove to have her fame reach far into the future - an enduring artist without the smudges that lesser artists have allowed themselves to be tarred with. Her lack of performing live seems to have only increased our intensity for wanting to see and hear more from her.
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Post by Xanadu on Feb 24, 2006 2:37:45 GMT
Thanks Al, and I'll get back to your comments later, but I also want to add.... Do you think the criticism of her unusual style, even to the extent of harsh mockery, effected her performance? I make a point of "innocence" that seems to be lost just a little later. Similar to a child performing who suddenly becomes too self aware, and it changes him/her from then on. Or on the other hand, perhaps the fame and adulation very quickly added too much weight and expectation to her career... which is then reflected most obviously in her stage presence and persona. I make such a point because my husband recently watched the Tour Of Life video with me. He is extremely aware of her career, and very much enjoys her music. He confirmed how I felt about watching this early material and thought it unusual that someone who seemed to thrive so much on visual live performance should then become almost reclusive. I began to question it more myself. There seems to be more than exhaustion and perfection as well... unless you'd say they were to a detrimental degree. (Not to be misunderstood that I think her material hasn't been stellar ) I'm glad you agree, and that's what makes any footage more precious. Do really think she may hide difficult feelings about her early career, enough to wish it was erased!? I will reference some quotes from the Q interview from '93 when I get a chance. But read some on Gaffa if you can.
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Post by Al Truest on Feb 24, 2006 3:13:53 GMT
Thanks Al, and I'll get back to your comments later, but I also want to add.... Do you think the criticism of her unusual style, even to the extent of harsh mockery, effected her performance? I make a point of "innocence" that seems to be lost just a little later. Similar to a child performing who suddenly becomes too self aware, and it changes him/her from then on. Maybe to some degree; and if it weren't for "The Dreaming" videos I would wholeheartedly say so. Which btw may have been the official end to her 'over-the-topness' (if you will) I think the early mockery may have been exacerbated by just her natural process of maturing and reflection. She had to have more than average resilience to carry on with such uniqueness and independence. It is in retrospect that she is more reserved than in the moments of her creative processes. (to me anyway) It would be impossible, I would think, for this to not be the case in some degree. Her strength of purpose and vision though still carried on. She surely has patience and self control, however, no matter what her feelings may have been as a result. I think her need to perform did not wane. Her love of film, her desire for excellence and her growing hatred of the publicity dictated that she stop touring and promoting though. At least to the degree that she had no control of the outcome. Detrimental only in the fact that we'll never know what may have materialized if she could have remained entirely unfettered. Each man kills the thing he loves...... I cringe at poetry I wrote a month ago. I just think some people must express themselves. However, in so doing, and especially if these expressions resonate with others, then it can be painful to look back at a place we have moved on from. What artists can not control is how their inspirations will be locked in time and memories with those that want to clutch them and keep them in a jewel box only to keep them as an object of obsession and comfort. Kate may see her past as the awkward stubblings on her way to a greater realization. And we as fans want to glom on all kinds of erroneous or misplaced assumptions about the artist or the message. We're still infatuated with the infancy of her career when indeed it has matured and blossomed into something that we may not fully appreciate for another decade. That's when she'll shed her skin once more....
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Post by Adey on Feb 24, 2006 3:43:02 GMT
Interesting speculations Xan & Al, but I would expect nothing less from you guys.
"From the calm persistence of plastic, to the nervous white light of the stage.." Bill Nelson '77.
I've always been fascinated by the reports of Kate's intention to tour The Red Shoes. Sadly it came to nought and she came up with the very average Line Cross & Curve video instead. We do know that her emotional health was fragile at this time and I'm reasonably confident that this was her main reason for abandoning those plans.
Add to this, (and yes Xan, I agree whole-heartedly) her apparent reluctance to re-visit old material and we can perhaps begin to see why there has been no follow up tour. I guess also that inertia becomes a factor - the longer it remained undone, the less likely it was to ever be done. That's a great shame as she was certainly one of the most innovative and talented live performers of the day. In many ways she is now half the artist that she was, although (IMO I hasten to add) the quality of her recorded work increased from The Dreaming onwards. Also now absent from her promotional routines, is the epic record shop signings of yesteryear. I actually wondered if she might have resurrected this practice to support the release of Aerial.. Let's be honest, that marvellous (and possibly definitive) recording has been almost criminally unpromoted and I'm prepared to bet that's down to Kate herself rather than EMI.
It seems that Kate would now have her admirers accept her entirely on her own terms. That's the price of the ticket into KateWorld, and that's fair enough. Her life, her career after all..
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Post by W.HI.P on May 15, 2006 3:11:06 GMT
through that link i saw the red shoes for the first time. i love the video, i watched it over and over again. i got to see there goes a tenner, i didn't even know it existed. i got to see all those wonderfull live preformances which i had never seen. i also got invited to this kate group in youtube. i assume it was someone from in here. thank you
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 9, 2006 3:41:15 GMT
Yahoo has just started to try and compete with 'Youtube' There are already several Kate Bush videos cued up and ready to watch there. Also, some additional material available. The standard screen size is larger and some of the quality is better than @ Youtube. Check it out - Go to "Yahoo" search engine, keyword "Kate Bush" and then select the 'Video' search feature...Let me know what you think...
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Post by matanchik on Oct 22, 2006 0:27:17 GMT
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Post by matanchik on Dec 2, 2006 17:25:21 GMT
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Post by karmamama on Dec 9, 2006 16:15:28 GMT
Most people usually are drunk when they do karaoke
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Post by Xanadu on Dec 9, 2006 23:23:33 GMT
Most people usually are drunk when they do karaoke I never been drunk enough (and I've been drunk) to do karaoke. Thankfully...
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Post by Max on Dec 10, 2006 14:37:29 GMT
I never been drunk enough (and I've been drunk) to do karaoke. Thankfully... I have. Me and a friend butchered 'Hounds of Love'. It was...ugly....
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Post by k8fan on May 24, 2007 4:51:46 GMT
I've posted this in a couple of other Kate web forums, but while there is considerable overlap, it is not complete and I wanted to make sure Kate fans saw this. I've been uploading some clips on Google Video in addition to the ones I've put on YouTube. The advantages are: Higher quality Longer clips Users can save clips Clips can be private (not searchable) The ones I put on Google are obscured; the words "Kate Bush" don't appear anywhere in the description. The idea is to have an archive that you can get to only if you know the direct link. These are for you to share with fellow Kate fans, but please don't post them everywhere. I don't know if Kate or EMI is behind it, but the "Kate Bush" MySpace page just got deleted again, so somebody has some funny ideas about promotion. I'd prefer to not have to spend weeks uploading all these videos again. Short bits: Long bits: "Kate Bush in Concert" - complete, with no subtitles or overdubbingNationwide: Kate Bush on Tour"Rhythms of the World" documentary (complete) and starting at the point featuring Kate "Profiles in Rock" interview with Doug Pringle (1980)"Rockdrotting fan England" Stockholm concert footage and videosMuch worse quality than my other stuff, but indispensable: The unedited MTV interviewThis has appeared in little bits on YouTube, but as far as I know, this is the first time it has appeared on-line in complete form. Here are links to each song: I also saved the two amazing recent discoveries: "Wuthering Heights - Verona Italy 1978Hammer Horror - San Remo FestivalThis one is an overview of Kate's career called "Saga du Rock", from Belgian TV, in French. It features some interview bits, and they are in English with French sub-titles. But the questions and the rest of the narration is in French. I added English subtitles thanks to Google video and a French fan named Catherine. Here's the whole video.Interview segment 1Interview segment 2Interview segment 3Interview segment 4Interview segment 5Just added: I got this one from a guy at A&M Records (sorry, I forgot his name) who got his copy from a former head of EMI America. The audio had suffered from a lot of compression, so I re-synced the CD tracks: The De Efetling Special (Complete)A career overview from 1987 by the Canadian station MuchMusic using interview clips from various periods. Quality is not great being apparently 3 VHS generations down. "The Story So Far"This was released on VHS and LaserDisc, but I think there was some different interview material on the final release. I'll capture that as well to compare. But this is the original broadcast version. "The Sensual World of Kate Bush" from VH1I'll come back and add more when I get back to uploading. And I'll accept requests (as long as it is not for Kate's commercial work like Hammersmith Odean, TLTC&TC, etc.) Edit: Oh, and by way of introduction, here's the video I made years ago for "The Infant Kiss".
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Post by Al Truest on May 24, 2007 21:46:39 GMT
I've posted this in a couple of other Kate web forums, but while there is considerable overlap, it is not complete and I wanted to make sure Kate fans saw this. I've been uploading some clips on Google Video in addition to the ones I've put on YouTube. The advantages are: Higher quality Longer clips Users can save clips Clips can be private (not searchable) The ones I put on Google are obscured; the words "Kate Bush" don't appear anywhere in the description. The idea is to have an archive that you can get to only if you know the direct link. These are for you to share with fellow Kate fans, but please don't post them everywhere. I don't know if Kate or EMI is behind it, but the "Kate Bush" MySpace page just got deleted again, so somebody has some funny ideas about promotion. I'd prefer to not have to spend weeks uploading all these videos again. Short bits: Long bits: "Kate Bush in Concert" - complete, with no subtitles or overdubbingNationwide: Kate Bush on Tour"Rhythms of the World" documentary (complete) and starting at the point featuring Kate I also saved the two amazing recent discoveries: "Wuthering Heights - Verona Italy 1978Hammer Horror - San Remo FestivalHere's one that's a bit tricky, and I need some help with. It's an overview of Kate's career, supposedly from Belgian TV, but it appears to be in French. It features some interview bits, and they are in English with French sub-titles. But the questions and the rest of the narration is in French. Now I can add subtitles to Google videos. But I don't speak a word of French. Are there any French speaking people here willing to help out by translating this? A REAL translation, not a "then he said something about Kate's dance" one, but one that I can use for a DVD release, with timing. There is a free tool that can be used for this purpose that you load a video into, and it will produce a text file with timing that will be optionally displayed when someone plays this video. I devote quite a bit of my free time working on projects like this, and it would be nice to have some help in this area. Anyway, it's called "Saga du Rock". Here's the whole video.Interview segment 1Interview segment 2Interview segment 3Interview segment 4Interview segment 5Just added: I got this one from a guy at A&M Records (sorry, I forgot his name) who got his copy from a former head of EMI America. The audio had suffered from a lot of compression, so I re-synced the CD tracks: The De Efetling Special (Complete)I'll come back and add more when I get back to uploading. And I'll accept requests (as long as it is not for Kate's commercial work like Hammersmith Odean, TLTC&TC, etc.) Edit: Oh, and by way of introduction, here's the video I made years ago for "The Infant Kiss". Thanks! I am assuming that you are the same K8fan from 'Homeground' and the prolific poster of Kate and Happy Rhodes links. ;D
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