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Post by Lori on Feb 17, 2002 21:45:16 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]Cloudbusting[/glow] I've been watching this over but I still don't seem to be able to work this out. On the Cloudbusting video, why does her father get taken away...and then why is he relieved when she makes it rain with the weather machine? I'm a bit lost. The only thing I could thing of is that maybe they took him away for being a bit loopy...thinking he could change the weather and stuff so they take him away. Then when Kate makes the machine work...he's relieved that the government will believe him and let him go. Am I totally off course here? Can someone please try to explain if you know? Thanks
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Post by zippy on Feb 18, 2002 11:52:34 GMT
hi lori this site is cool ive never even heard any kate bush songs apart from wuthering heights but im sure their fab!!!
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Post by flashpics on Feb 19, 2002 19:54:09 GMT
;D Hi Lori. Kate has siad in the past that she draws her inspiration from what she sees and reads . I the case of the video for cloud busting she heard the story of a professor Wilhelm Reich ( hope the spelling is correct) who worked on a thing called organ energy and had a machine called a cloudbuster and could make it rain. Kates idea is that the authority's take a dim view of the professors work and when he tries to test his machine he is arrested . his daughter then opperates the machine it rains and he know's his machine works. The casting of Donald Sutherland as her father was she says natural. She asked his agent who said no way but the man appeared and gave them three days in between shooting another movie. nothing has pleased her more than the fact that he took his time to give her what she wanted. the information I have is from her interview on the Sensual world video.
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Post by Lori on Feb 20, 2002 0:18:03 GMT
Hmmm...interesting... you've obviously done your homework So do you know why the proffesor is relieved when she makes it rain because he flicks one of the guys' hats' off.
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Post by flashpics on Feb 20, 2002 9:01:42 GMT
I think its that his work has been vindicated its kind of " I said I could do it and I did" but thats my thoughts. Kate never explained it any better. As for doing my homework I tend to collect lots of little bits of information on kate been a fan for years. I can still remember swatting for my O levels and wuthering heights was on the radio she's only a year older than I am so I kind of grew up with her. I had never heard anything like it and bought the record the next day.My parent hated her which made her even better in my eyes. I had every single and all the albums plus all the video releases she made and since , I have even downloaded some of the first stuff she did at home on a tape machine. So do you think i'm a fan lol.
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Post by Lori on Feb 21, 2002 1:23:27 GMT
Ahh wow!!! I'm so jealous I've only been a fan for about a year and a half so I don't have much of her stuff. I wasn't even born when she started out, as I'm only 18 now. I'd never heard of her and then 'Wuthering Heights' came on VH1 Classic and I was completely fascinated. With it being on the classic channel I thought my mum would know who it was so I asked her the next day but she didn't know who I was talking about ('cos for some very strange reason I said she had blonde hair, dunno where I got that from, hehe). Anyway me and my mum were shopping when 'Wuthering Heights' came on in one of the shops and I was like "Mum! This is the one". My mum knew exactly who it was, she was like "Ahhh that's Kate Bush!". Once I'd got the name I came onto the Internet to search for the song and downloaded 'Wuthering Heights'. When I was talking about Kate with my cousin near Christmas she played me a Christmas CD which had 'December Will Be Magic Again' on it. I loved that as soon as I heard it so I downloaded that too. I got 'The Whole Story' album that Christmas (2000) and that was how it all began. I got 'The Whole Story' video for Christmas just gone (2001) aswell as another 3 of her albums ('Lionheart', 'The Red Shoes' & 'The Sensual World'. Now she's my idol and I'm desparate to learn more about her from people like yourself (who may I add have been extremely helpful) because I don't really know much. Anyway I hope I haven't bored you with my story, hehe Hope to hear from you soon.
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Post by birgittesc on Feb 26, 2002 8:28:28 GMT
I'm not totally certain what the video means either. What you may try is to look it up at www.gaffa.orgThe website Gaffa Web is heaven for Kate Bush fans, especially for starters. It contains loads of information and it has a section called "Passing Through Air" which contains information on Kate's videos. I'm not sure if it gives explanations of what they mean, but at least it'll give you a survey of the videos Kate has made over the years. Birgitte
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Post by geofflorimer@aol.com on Mar 23, 2002 15:43:02 GMT
glad you like kate. i have followed her for many years now, even meeting a girlfriend through her fan club many years ago. have you heard "night of the swallow" ?... it was a limited release vinyl record. it was also on the "this womans work" box set. it is so beautiful. i will send you a cd copy if you would like it. thank heavens for cd writers eh!. geoff
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Post by Lori on Mar 24, 2002 22:58:29 GMT
No I've never heard of 'night of the swallow'. Is it a single or an album and is it done by Kate Bush sololy (if that's a word )
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Post by Charlotte on Aug 14, 2002 19:42:41 GMT
night of the swallow is a song. it is on the album "The Dreaming" for me, i am from germany, 15 and maybe the youngest person here... 2 years ago my ma gave me hounds of love for present (it was simply lying in front of my door one day and when i asked her she said "i saw it in the music shop today and i thought you might like it"... you are right mom!) . from the first moment i loved it and now i have all the albums, the whole story, the single from the man i love and 5 CDs full of the early stuff, film soundtracks, songs from tribute albums, b-sides and so on... my boyfriend loaded them down for me. i got to know him via kate bush too- i was writing something about kate at amazon and he e-mailed me and so on... (THANK YOU OH THANK YOU KATE ) we've been together for 8 and a half months now and we are still so happy!!! my little brother (he is 12) goes mad coz i play her all the time and my friends don't even know her but that doesn't stop me being a kate bush MANIAC...
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Nov 10, 2002 12:03:56 GMT
LORI,
My own impression of the video is that MS. BUSH is portraying a young boy whose father has invented a machine that can control weather.
The inventor is arrested because - like GALILEO - his discovery is perceived to be a threat to The Authorities, and so he is arrested by The Secret Police, but the inventor is vindicated by his son, who activates his machine as he is being taken into custody.
I am always fascinated by how utterly different to my own ideas her video concepts are, and have been!
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Post by Lori on Feb 12, 2003 23:47:39 GMT
Hi! I've never been on this message board for ages (maybe a year) because I thought it had failed but a few of you's have somehow tracked it down which is kool.
Anyway, I've just been redaing back a bit to recap and I have all of Kate's albums now and yes, I love Night of the Swallow. It's definately one of my many favourites.
Thanks for all your views on cloudbusting. It's becoming clearer to me now even though it might not be right.
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Post by MALCOLM XERXES™ on Mar 11, 2003 7:32:55 GMT
LORI,
Welcome back, love!
That song is 1 that I love because its Protagonist's plight is so readily identified with by me, for I have been that bloke who is telling someone not to worry, despite knowing full well how dangerous the thing I am about to attempt to do is going to be.
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Post by Neo Stella on Mar 24, 2003 23:15:58 GMT
My take on Cloudbusting: turning clouds into rain ( controlling the weather )
turning dreams into reality ( controlling the mind )
Organon energy ( controlling time )
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Post by Xanadu on Jun 17, 2003 1:04:20 GMT
Hey Lori, I was just scrolling back in time at old posts and I read this one about Cloudbusting. I have this portion of an interview and I thought you might find it interesting. Maybe I'll post in the song meanings at some point. I also read later that his son, the author of the novel, said that he was very pleased with the song and Kate captured his feelings about his father at the time. Supposedly Kate heard he was pleased and was glad that her interpretation touched him. So here's the quote: "The last song is called "Cloudbusting" and this was inspired by a book that I first found on a shelf nearly nine years ago. It was just calling me from the shelf and when I read it I was very moved by the magic of it. It's about a special relationship between a young son and his father and the book was written from a child's point of view. His father is everything to him, he is the magic in his life and he teaches him everything, teaching him to be open minded and not to build up barriers. His father has built a machine that can make it rain; a cloudbuster and the son and his father go out together cloudbusting, they point big pipes up into the sky and they make it rain. The song is very much taking a comparison between a yo-yo that glowed in the dark that was given to the boy by a best friend and it was really special to him, he loved it but his father believed in things having positive and negative energy and that fluorescent light was a very negative energy as was the material they used to make glow in the dark toys then and his father told him he had to get rid of it, he wasn't allowed to keep it. But the boy, rather than throwing it away, buried it in the garden so he would placate his father but he could also go and dig it up occasionally and play with it. It's a parallel in some ways between how much he loved the yo-yo and how special it was but that it was considered dangerous. He loved his father (who was perhaps considered dangerous by some people) and how he could bury his yo-yo and retrieve that whenever he wanted to play with it but there's nothing he can do about his father being taken away, he is completely helpless. But it's very much more to do with how the son does begin to cope with the whole lonliness and pain of being without his father. It is the magic moments of a relationship through a child's eyes but being told by a sad adult." The book is "A Book of Dreams" by Peter Reich in 1973. I guess it pretty hard to find now. Since I have yet to read a copy, here's a little overview from a review on Amazon: "The Book of Dreams tells the true story of a man (Peter Reich) recalling (through a series of flashbacks) his close and loving relationship with his father - the famous scientist Wilhelm Reich. Wilhelm Reich was at the forefront of scientific thinking on human sexuality and, in particular, the 'Cosmic Orgone Energy Theory' in the 1930s and '40s. He wrote many books on the subject, including the then enlightening 'The function of the Orgasm.' He also experimented with various forms of energy, attempting to capture 'Orgone' - energy in its purest form. Together with his young son, Peter, he went on to build a machine that could affect cloud formations, capture 'Orgone' and, to all intents and purposes, make clouds rain. Although the book touches on many interesting scientific ideas, the book concentrates mostly on Peters memories, on the love, devotion and encouragement he received from his father. On his father's insistence that he stay in touch with his feelings and not become hard like most people in the world -hardness in people, Reich senior believed, made people ill. He didn't want Peter to suffer from that illness as he grew up. Reich senior was later arrested for his beliefs and his experiments and died soon after in prison. Much of his research was destroyed by 'the authorities,' leaving a (still) young Peter with only his memories, most of which as an adult he could only recall through his dreams. Informative, gripping and eminently readable." Maybe I will post this in the Song Meanings section too!
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