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Post by Banshee on Feb 6, 2004 16:16:35 GMT
So let me get this straight, you've admitted to liking five songs on the album, yet you just can't call it a success? Maybe your expectations are higher than hers. Or you just don't get it. Hmm...maybe you just don't get it. ;D No, I guess I don't ;D. But there are still 7 songs I don't like that much! I must admit this thread got me listening to TRS again, heheheh The title song is not so bad as background music though!
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Post by strabley on Feb 6, 2004 16:31:06 GMT
I must admit this thread got me listening to TRS again, heheheh The title song is not so bad as background music though! Background music?! I practially had an o---- the first time I heard it! (Let's just say I almost came in a hurricane! )
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Post by Adey on Feb 7, 2004 0:41:25 GMT
I practially had an o---- the first time I heard it! (Let's just say I almost came in a hurricane! ) LOL Thanks for replying - I was being flippant and didn't expect a response (always nice to get one though! ) At the risk of sounding like a pompous git, as a musician I know that the Surreal World is important, adventurous even progressive work. I should love it for that alone. But I'm still not wholly committed to it (apart from the stunning This Womans Work which is breathtaking) I'll get there one day..
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Post by Lori on Feb 7, 2004 10:47:00 GMT
I don't like the title track at all either. The Red Shoes, Eat the Music & Lily are my very least favourite on the album. Don't really like Rubberband Girl or Why Should I Love You either. I love Song of Solomon and quite like Constellation of the Heart. The rest... well ... they're just - there
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Post by Al Truest on Feb 7, 2004 20:02:19 GMT
Shouldn't this thread be moved to the " Deeper Understanding' board?
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Post by strabley on Feb 11, 2004 7:08:56 GMT
LOL Thanks for replying - I was being flippant and didn't expect a response (always nice to get one though! ) At the risk of sounding like a pompous git, as a musician I know that the Surreal World is important, adventurous even progressive work. I should love it for that alone. But I'm still not wholly committed to it (apart from the stunning This Womans Work which is breathtaking) I'll get there one day.. This woman's work was not even for that album originally. She wrote it for a John Hughes film soundtrack and liked it enough to put it on her album. I always felt "the Sensual World" seemed on Kate's part a tiny bit forced. Almost like she was trying to be precious. Okay everyone, send me the death threats!
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Post by Sto on Feb 11, 2004 22:01:17 GMT
I always felt "the Sensual World" seemed on Kate's part a tiny bit forced. Well, she did admit to having a bit of writer's block after "Hounds of Love"; she did the gardening instead. She couldn't think of anything to write about. But I'm glad she persued the path she did. "The Sensual World" is my 2nd favourite Kate album after "The Red Shoes". Like the latter, it's not perfect, but there's something about these 2 albums, overall, which cry out to me and make me so certain that Kate is, for me, the best artist out there.
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Post by Adey on Feb 12, 2004 2:04:48 GMT
This woman's work was not even for that album originally. She wrote it for a John Hughes film soundtrack and liked it enough to put it on her album. I always felt "the Sensual World" seemed on Kate's part a tiny bit forced. Almost like she was trying to be precious. Okay everyone, send me the death threats! They'll have to get us both Sheila! This thread development seems to have started by accident - perhaps it should be moved to The Surreal World now. Anyway, I think I agree - just a bit too deliberately obscure. One things for certain, it's very personal. Perhaps, as some artists do, KB made it deliberately obscure so as not to give too much of her inner self away to her audience. I think the overall bleakness of the album is a clue to this. I don't know if anyone is familiar with the Soul Cages album by Sting, but it has such a similar vibe to TSW. And thats interesting for the following reason: Somebody here said KB admitted to some writers block whilst preparing the album (I didn't know this). This is incredibly debilitating for an artist. Sting suffered with it for over a year - only overcoming it by writing about his Father and his loss on his death. So he looked inside himself - maybe thats the situation with TSW. I'm guessing obviously.
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Post by Roxy641 on Jul 1, 2004 14:40:43 GMT
Hi all,
I thought I'd jump into the deep end ;D
this is my first post, anway...
I love "The Red Shoes" although it's not my favourite album.
Roxy641
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Post by stev0 on Aug 3, 2005 11:34:30 GMT
Thanks to Google Groups, I can go back and check my first impressions on the album (at least four tracks of it).
Background: It was at a Katemas party in San Jose, CA. It was just before the album itself was released - I forgot how, but someone got ahold of these four tracks. We played them over and over at the party. Here's what I posted:
That last one is obviously "And So Is Love".
Impressions a dozen years later:
Moments of Pleasure: Yes, this has become my favorite Kate song.
Eat the Music: I have grown to like this one - it's just so damn HAPPY.
Rubberband Girl: This one quickly wore off of me. It's OK, but nothing great.
And So Is Love: This one is still an "eh" for me.
As for the rest of the album - I agree with most longtime KateFans (ie, since 1988 and before) that this is one of Kate's weaker moments. I can't see why people HATE this one - it has some of her finer moments (besides the ones mentioned about, there's Big Stripey Lie and the underrated Song of Solomon), but it's crowded with too many "eh" songs (the overrated Lily, for example). And, of course, it has Kate's all-time worst song, "Y Should I Luv U" (and you can't blame Prince for this one, either - Kate released it under her name, she should take the blame for it).
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Post by Sheila on Nov 29, 2005 15:49:03 GMT
Sigh. Well at least Adey likes this song with me. I never got to go to a Katemas party I'm jealous!
BTW I did a "I'm feeling lucky" google search of my name (can you tell I'm bored?) and this thread came up. ;D Gaffaweb comes up if you do Kate.
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Post by gentlemangaga on Apr 22, 2012 2:05:48 GMT
I noted Lori's comments about not playing Red Shoes much, and it reminded me that many people I know who enjoy KB, have also said something similar. I wonder why this is? I just listened to it a few days ago, after a long time away from it, and unlike my rememberance of it suggested would be the case, genuinely enjoyed it. I can't recall now why I didn't like it. It's pretty good. And if it's a "touch lighter" than is typical for her I figure she can be weak every so often without my jumping up and down about it. I guess previously I thought the opposite.
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Post by Adey on May 29, 2012 2:45:35 GMT
The Red Shoes is like Tiny Tim - a crippled child that is loved all the more for it's infirmities.
Its an album I adore. And there are some gorgeous re-workings of some it's stand out tracks on the Director's Cut album - along with one or two that don't work for me.
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