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Post by Lori on Jul 31, 2003 23:35:34 GMT
This chapter says "Put it out of your mind" Mmm, give it time....
The fine purple The purest gold The red of the Sacred Heart The grey of a ghost The "L" of the lips are open To the "O" of the Host The "V" of the velvet
Of all of the people in the world Why should I love you? There's just something 'bout you There's just something 'bout you Of all the people in the world Why should I love you?
Have you ever seen a picture Of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed
Of all the people in the world Why should I love you? There's just something 'bout you There's just something 'bout you Of all the people in the world Why should I love you? Of all the people in the world Why should I love you?
The fine purple The purest gold The red of the Sacred Heart The grey of a ghost The "L" of the lips are open To the "O" of the Host The "V" of the velvet The "E" of my eye The eye in wonder The eye that sees The "I" that loves you
Of all the people in the world Why should I love you?
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Post by strabley on Jan 30, 2004 22:28:37 GMT
Okay, here I go. I don't think this song gets the credit it deserves. There's the literal interpretation. I've only been in love once and I can't figure out why I can't get over him seeing as how I most likely will never see him again. "this chapter says put it out of your mind and give it time" How can you know if it really is love until time has passed and all things surrounding it are examined once the initial passion is cooled a bit? Examine all the colors and textures that make this person special ie, the violent purple, the gray of the ghost all in the sensation of velvet. The eye that sees examines the aesthetics that make this person the one she loves. "did you ever see a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm do you think he had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed?" BAM! There it is! The reason I can't forget this one guy is because his smile shot a healing tranquility right into my soul, the healing I had always been looking for. My second interpretation is not so literal. I imagine that Kate probably had some degreee of trepidation collaborating with Prince. They almost have too much in common to work together well, both being perfectionists who demand complete and utter control over their work. I think this is one of the boldest and most vulnerable songs Kate has ever done. I assume this relinquishment of total control is the reason so many of you don't like this song. Kate really took a risk with this one. The lyrics might be interpreted to be about this. (Why else would she put the word "purple" in her Prince song? ) Why should this collaboration work? For starters let's weird-up the mix to add the velvet texture. The violent purple (Prince) The purest gold (Kate) The red of the sacret heart (Lenny Henry?) The gray of the ghost (The Trio Bulgarka?) Why should this work? There's just something about it! If you've read this far thanks, especially if you don't like this song. But please let me leave you with one question. Honestly ask yourself: If this song were on Prince's album instead of Kate's, would you have liked it better?
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Post by Xanadu on Jan 31, 2004 0:38:26 GMT
Sheila, I'm so glad you started posting your thoughts here! This one is great. Did I inspire you to listen yesterday? I have thought something similar but a little different. I'll just ask a question to start: Does anyone see any religious comparisons here? And with the entire album? Obviously the purple, the gold, the red and the gray are symbols. But the looking for comfort in faith at a trying time? The Red Shoes? Top Of The City? "Why Should I Love You?" The comparisons of the love of another with a religion. Leonard Cohen and Peter Gabriel both do this regularly. I think Sheila is on to a good interpretation here. Why do people love Jesus? What is it about him? What is it about you (or the loved one) that make me feel this faith and devotion when it makes little sense? And why should I love you, they tell me to and teach me to, but aside from these things, why? An inquiring mind who wants the answers? "I want the answers quickly... I hold a cup of wisdom, but there is nothing within." This could also be looking to faith for comfort and only finding that people do this because they are told to, and then asking why. You never ask why. And therefore you don't get any answers. Maybe it's about conflicting things, since both Kate and Prince contribute here? And my answer to your question... I already like this song. I think Kate wrote it and gave it to Prince without any contact (I have an interview statement about this song somewhere, I'll have to find it) and this is what he sent back. Not that she didn't like it, I didn't get that impression... I think it wasn't what she expected. But, I guess she thought it worked enough to put it on the album. I'd like to read more Sheila, since you like TRS also, maybe we're onto something! ;D And Sheila, I'm right there with you on the tranquilty part. The smile and voice that heals...
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Post by Al Truest on Jan 31, 2004 2:42:30 GMT
I have thought something similar but a little different. I'll just ask a question to start: Does anyone see any religious comparisons here? And with the entire album? Obviously the purple, the gold, the red and the gray are symbols. But the looking for comfort in faith at a trying time? The Red Shoes? Top Of The City? "Why Should I Love You?" The comparisons of the love of another with a religion. Leonard Cohen and Peter Gabriel both do this regularly. "A thousand churches in your eyes" that one hits me in the gut. Me too! Way to go Sheila. And I did read it all. I loved this song before your post, but enjoy it more after reading your and Zan's comments It does have Prince's thumprint on it. How much of it is a collaboration or concession may be impossible to distinguish. But knowing Kate, it would have never been released without her stamp. I'd like to hear more as well. Maybe you guys will share some thoughts on faith at the C.O.N.T.R.O.L. board "Ghosts" thread. A few lyrical references might put things into context there. Since faith has been brought up several times, I'm about to post another questionaire on the "Personal Profiles" thread.
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Post by strabley on Jan 31, 2004 15:35:58 GMT
Al and Zan, THANK YOU for your comments! Zan my 3rd interpretation was religious, taking in the "O" of the host, Jesus being the ultimate source of true purity, etc. (it's that catholic thing in me kicking in!) My problem here is the people who don't like this song are not going to read this. Sto? Sto? SToooooooooo (nothing but echo)
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Post by strabley on Jan 31, 2004 16:09:23 GMT
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Post by Xanadu on Jan 31, 2004 21:50:49 GMT
I forgot to say---as a matter of fact, you were the inspiration, Zan, for me saying what I had to say about a TRS track! Zan you are one of the angels in my life now ;D Sheila... (image removed by the *&^%* who switched the link of a hug to something ridiculous) <<HUGS>> that makes it all worth it. ;D
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Post by stev0 on Jul 7, 2005 3:05:53 GMT
I'm sorry, but this is my least favorite Kate song. I even much prefer the reviled Shoedance over this one.
On other Kate fora, they blame Prince for this song's failure. Me, I say Kate released it on HER album with HER name on it - the blame squarely falls on her.
And the biggest problem - lyrically, it's a fine song. Musically, it could be better. MUCH better. And I usually love it when Kate gets funky (Ken is one of my favorite Kate songs). Where it falls apart is when Kate decides NOT TO SING ON IT. I mean, yeah, that first "Of all the people in the world" whacks you on the side of the head like a giant rotting flounder, but when Lenny Henry starts singing, I have no choice - I have to hit the "Next track" button.
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Post by matanchik on Jul 13, 2005 21:03:17 GMT
i absolutely love this song. the chorus can get a little cheesy sometimes but the verses are pure delight and especially the opening, i played those three opening chords on my keyboard one day for a whole hour! i just couldn't get enough of it! (yeah, call me crazy, prescribe me to a mental hospital). those who don't like this song - you can't blame only prince for this song to be bad, remember kate wrote the lyrics and music and kate approved prince's arrangement. if she didn't like it she could throw it. rubberband girl is also very prince-y song and i don't see anybody going against it
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Post by stev0 on Jul 13, 2005 22:36:57 GMT
There's nothing wrong with dancable Kate ("Ken" is one of my favorite Kate songs). At least Kate SINGS in Rubberband Girl. Plus, Rubberband Girl sounds original - this sounds like something Britney Spears would reject for being too commercial.
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Post by Adey on Jul 14, 2005 2:02:52 GMT
I think Mat is only partially right..
As I understood it, Kate & Prince were both comfortable with the idea of a collaboration, but couldn't manage to get together on it. Prince took a handful of ideas and moulded them into one musical phrase, and sent it to Kate. She in turn built the song and it's arrangements around this one off phrase. That's why Lenny Henry takes the male vocals on the later material she developed to augment the efforts of the Purple One. Prince wasn't around to do them himself.
Prince was the seed and the inspiration for the track, rather than being an equal collaborator. After turning in his initial phrase, he apparently had nothing more to do with the song..
That's my understanding any way. Anyone know better?
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Post by Sheila on Aug 8, 2005 19:45:10 GMT
You mean Kate and Prince never actually met?
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Post by Adey on Aug 9, 2005 2:12:44 GMT
I don't know if they've ever met - but apparently not on the creation of this song.
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Post by Sven Golly on Aug 9, 2005 2:17:34 GMT
I don't know if they've ever met - but apparently not on the creation of this song. There was never a meeting of the minds either.
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Post by Sheila on Aug 9, 2005 2:34:40 GMT
I disagree. I find it to be a refreshing and fantastic collaberation.
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