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Post by Lori on Jul 14, 2005 21:46:09 GMT
Discuss the album 'The Sensual World' as a whole.
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stev0
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Post by stev0 on Jul 20, 2005 12:59:32 GMT
I was active on a BBS when this came out (for those of you who don't know what a BBS is, it's what we did before the Internet became mainstream). I didn't have Internet access through it, but another member who was also a KaTeFan did, and since he was on Lovehounds, he knew when this would be out - so I knew when it would be out. Got it the first day, slipped it into my Walkman (this was my brief post-vinyl pre-CD phase) and loved it on the first listen.
I just rolled my eyes when all the faux-KateFans who jumped on the bandwagon when she was flavor-of-the-week with HOL hated this one because it wasn't another HOL.
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Post by CopyOfCpt (just say Cor) on Jul 20, 2005 13:03:44 GMT
I was under the impression that I made some remarks on this album earlier these weeks, but if I did they are gone now.... am I getting older (answer: yes, every second I'm getting older) or are entries lost (answer: yes?)
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 20, 2005 18:58:45 GMT
Entries shouldn't be lost. Please pm Lori if you think that is the case.
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W.HI.P
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Post by W.HI.P on Jul 20, 2005 20:24:14 GMT
This thread was just created a few days ago, I doubt that your posts are lost They must be within a thread regarding a song from the album
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Post by CopyOfCpt (just say Cor) on Jul 22, 2005 6:08:23 GMT
Then it was just my imagination... that has a tendency to make and mix up things... just like as if it were made for that.
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Sheila
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Post by Sheila on Sept 30, 2005 14:40:19 GMT
So we've been talking about the hidden TK's on all the albums (and BTW it looks like she didn't even try to hide the one on Aerial--it's all way too similar to the one on The Red Shoes, not that she really hid the one on Lionheart either, but I like a challenge) Now, finding the one on TSW--THAT is a challenge. And I challenge you to DEFY even what Gaffaweb tells you! It was 1989--Even I was buying Cd's then and I loved vinyl so much my father was teasing me about my digital boycott! So why would she put the TK way in the top right corner where it is cut off on the CD?? Yes, there is one there, but I found another (better) one. Even if The Kate Bush club insists it is in the top right corner I HAVE BEEN STUBBORN ABOUT THIS FOR 16 YEARS AND AM NOT ABOUT TO STOP NOW--and I am not usually stubborn. I challenge you to look above her right eye--just below her hairline. It looks a bit cloudier and lighter than her hair--as if it was drawn on her forehead--and the top of the T--I mean--look carefully---WHO HAS A PIECE OF HAIR THAT GOES LIKE THAT??? It's not attached to her real hairline! PLEASE tell me I am not the only one who can see this. I know I am crazy but please someone confirm my belief that there is a TK drawn on her forehead! Or is the whole Kate world messing with me?
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Post by Paul on Oct 1, 2005 23:48:54 GMT
I only see it on the vinyl
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Post by Paul on Oct 1, 2005 23:55:22 GMT
I compared the LP to the CD, and the only remnant of it on the CD is a cut-off 'T'
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Post by Paul on Oct 1, 2005 23:56:01 GMT
oh, and Sheila, I assure you it's not where you say it is
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Post by ragnar on Nov 30, 2005 15:51:16 GMT
Oh...I don't listen to Vynil...but for christmas I will get a record player, and then...mhmm, yes This Album is from the beginning to the end absolute fantastic. It sounds as if a boreal Wind had overcasted a blooming countryside with a gentle crust of snow. Of "That" symbiosis sounds this masterpiece. Hark and dream ! This is a translation of my Kate Bush diary from German into English...i hope I've done it well ;D
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Post by tannis on Feb 26, 2008 19:44:17 GMT
THE SENSUAL WORLD (1989) TITLEPull Out The Pin, a song on the album The Dreaming, was inspired by a television documentary on the Vietnam war. The documentary filmmaker was Neil Davis, who worked in Southeast Asia from 1964 until his death in 1985. An excellent biography of Davis called One crowded hour: Neil Davis, combat cameraman (1987) has been written by Tim Bowden, a close friend of Davis. In a pleasing coincidence*, the foreword of this book begins with The Call: "SOUND, sound the clarion, fill the fife! Throughout the sensual world proclaim, One crowded hour of glorious life Is worth an age without a name."The lines are by Thomas Osbert Mordaunt (1730 - 1809), written during the Seven Years' War of 1756 - 1763. The biography informs us that Davis wrote the last two lines of Mordaunt's verse in the flyleaf of every work diary he kept in Southeast Asia. Davis told Bowden it was his motto, and summed up his philosophy.
* Maybe KT 'borrowed' THE SENSUAL WORLD (1989) title from Bowden's forward? Or maybe the flyleaf information was presented in the documentary? The word "sensual" does not occur in Ulysses, and so a fortiori neither does "the sensual world". 'The Sensual World' title seems to be 'original' to Kate. But is it? The last two lines of Mordaunt's verse also seem very KT Bush: The KATE BUSH TOUR (aka 'The Tour Of Life'): One crowded hour of glorious life Is worth an age without a name...THE SENSUAL WORLD (1989) ALBUM COVER: the mouth and the flowerIf you can't tell your sister If you can't tell a priest 'Cause it's so deep you don't think that you can speak about it To anyone...On THE SENSUAL WORLD album cover, is KB concealing her mouth with a [purple]GARDENIA[/purple]? A gardenia image:
Billie Holiday's "trademark" was wearing a pure white gardenia in her hair, over her left ear. It was Sylvia Syms who bought Billie her 'First Gardenia'. Miss Syms tells a story that has become a part of jazz lore. One night in the dressing room, Holiday burned her hair with a curling iron. Miss Syms grabbed a gardenia from the club flower seller and gave it to Holiday as camouflage. The flower became the singer's trademark. Billie Holiday had a difficult childhood, which greatly affected her life and career. - for more information see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_HolidayKB (1978): "My other musical influences really have been things from the radio, obviously, because what you listen to are the things that are going on. And again, what my brothers were playing on the radio. At a later stage, I started seeking out my own stimulus and that came from people like, um, especially billie holiday. She was a really important thing to happen to me. Her voice just really did things to me. So emotional and so tearing. I still can't get over how incredible her voice was and her presence..." "Self Portrait", The Kick Inside promo LP/cassette Interview, 1978- gaffa.org/reaching/im78_tki.htmlAbout your singing, I know you used to listen to Billie Holiday. Did you make deliberate efforts to imitate her, singing along with her records and so on? KB: "Well, that was when I was about seventeen, and I was listening to all kinds of music. And no, I think Billie Holiday is one of the very few artists whose records I would never join in with while she's singing, she's too good. I just couldn't get near it. I think the reward you get from her is in actually listening to her voice. That is what is so beautiful about her, you can almost hear what she's been doing for the last three weeks. Her singing is extraordinary, it's just terrifying, the amount of, well, agony, and yet beauty, which comes out of just that one voice. Terrible suffering, yet so entertaining for those who listen."[/color] gaffa.org/reaching/i85_swa.htmlKate the Sculptress...
February: On Tuesday 4th February, a sculpture by Kate entitled "Strange Fruit" was included in an auction of artwork by music artists in aid of the Warchild charity.
Kate's sculpture (signed "Kate Bush 1996") was a tribute to Billie Holiday. There was a short piece by Kate describing the work:"Billie Holiday is one of my favourite singers. She is still a great inspiration. I sang with a band when I was eighteen and always wore a flower behind my ear to be like her: I felt it brought me luck. This sculpture shares it's name with one of her favourite songs. I've tried to depict her mouth in mid-song growing among the flowers"Also there is a longer description by Kate of the work in the exhibition catalogue:"Billie Holiday was a very big influence on me in my late teens. I loved the sound of her voice and I loved the quality of her songs, the sound of the recordings. And I suppose what I found most striking was the way she was able to convey such incredible feeling. When I was in a band years ago, I used to wear a flower behind my ear as a kind of good luck memento, that was something that she always used to do when she performed. So I suppose whenever I think of Billie, I think of her beautiful voice and the flower she used to wear. When the image came up of the mouth and the flower, it just felt for some... some reason that bronze was a really good medium. I had been wanting to try for six months to do sculpture and to try Bronze. It was really fun for me. I've not done anything like this before, to work with something that's a solid, three-dimensional object, as opposed to music which is so completely untouchable physically. It was thrilling to have something which was just a lump of metal, which you can turn around but you can no longer change of fiddle with. The Royal College of Art very kindly let me use their facilities and cast the piece for me. I modelled it in wax. I'd never really appreciated how lovely it is to be working with something so tactile. It really does take shapes, it takes your fingerprints into it. I found it very therapeutic, I'd recommend it to anyone. And I'd never appreciated how wonderful bronze is, when it's molten it looks like liquid fire."Kate's sculpture raised £600 for the charity and was exhibited to the general public in the ground floor gallery of the Economist Plaza in St. James's Street London from the 6th to 16th of February 1997.- www.katebushnews.com/leaving.htm[purple]Maybe KB has associated herself with Billie Holiday on THE SENSUAL WORLD - "the mouth and the flower" - album cover?[/purple]
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Feb 27, 2008 0:21:05 GMT
What an interesting thouht, Tannis. I had never seen the Kate sculpture before, also- it's very good, isn't it?
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Post by tannis on Feb 27, 2008 14:26:47 GMT
Years ago I saw a gardenia-corsaged Dee Dee Bridgewater in the one-woman show 'Lady Day', a musical about the life of Billie Holiday. She gave a tour de force portrayal of Holiday, and received a Laurence Olivier Award nomination for Best Actress. And yes, KB's sculpture is a wonderful tribute. I think it may have been inspired by 'Strange Fruit', a poem written by Abel Meeropol, a Jewish schoolteacher from the Bronx, about the lynching of two black men. "Strange Fruit" became a staple of Holiday's live performances, though Holiday's accompanist Bobby Tucker recalled that Holiday would break down every time after she sang it... Pastoral scene of the gallant South The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh Then the sudden smell of burning flesh...The lyrics are chilling. Holiday later said "The first time I sang it, I thought it was a mistake. There wasn't even a patter of applause when I finished. Then a lone person began to clap nervously. Then suddenly everyone was clapping and cheering." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_FruitDee Dee Bridgewater: "Billie sings with so much emotion that it just oozes from her voice when she sings. She had a way of taking a song and making it totally her own by the way she interpreted it and it was great. I think that's why people loved her..." - www.ladyday.net/life/jaztimes.html[purple] Billie Holiday on YouTube:[/purple] [Fine And Mellow] 1944 Billie Holiday- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I2a5AJUk7MBillie Holiday "One for my Baby (and one more for the road)"- www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7llu2aQRSQ&feature=relatedBillie Holiday - Strange Fruit- www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Feb 27, 2008 15:29:21 GMT
Thank you for the links, they are wonderful!
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