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Post by Lori on Jul 31, 2003 23:02:57 GMT
The light Begin to bleed Begin to breathe Begin to speak D'you know what? I love you better now
I am falling Like a stone Like a storm Being born again Into the sweet morning fog D'you know what? I love you better now
I'm falling And I'd love to hold you know I'll kiss the ground I'll tell my mother I'll tell my father I'll tell my loved one I'll tell my brothers How much I love them
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Post by Al Truest on Apr 21, 2005 16:58:41 GMT
If you haven't listened to this track in a while - do so. Especially if you like bass guitar played impeccably.
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Post by mizzshy on May 18, 2006 19:26:03 GMT
I love this so much that it makes me cry... but then I get that with a lot of songs...
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Post by mizzshy on Nov 4, 2006 18:31:43 GMT
Listening to it right now... bloody fantastic!!!
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Post by Xanadu on Nov 4, 2006 22:12:09 GMT
Listening to it right now... bloody fantastic!!! What do you think happens here, mizzshy? Did she survive the ordeal and is returning to Earth after her dreams? Does it make you cry for happiness or sorrow? I have always like this song enough, but it's not one my faves, so I'm curious about others who seems to really like it.
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Post by mizzshy on Nov 5, 2006 21:46:52 GMT
Well, I am crying because... it's... just such a beautiful song. here's a real feeling of elation about it and also a sadness as well... I think I posted something in the Ninth Wave about what the different parts of it say to me... but I think she's survived because she says thing like "I love you better now" so maybe she's greatful she survived... but maybe it's that she's died and she's reached eternal bliss... I'm confused now!!!
By the way... speaking of eternal bliss... wouldn't it get boring after a while???
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Post by Al Truest on Nov 5, 2006 22:07:48 GMT
By the way... speaking of eternal bliss... wouldn't it get boring after a while??? Not to me. For bliss would be the ever appropriate level of contentment for whatever state or form that you occupied. Metaphysically that is easier to imagine. But physically, it is hard to realize. For example eternal sexual intercourse would get boring. Conversely an eternal orgasm would just be overwhelming. Our hungers and satiations would no longer be points of reference
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Post by mizzshy on Nov 10, 2006 19:59:43 GMT
Err... I suppose...
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Post by tannis on Nov 26, 2007 16:16:37 GMT
And I feel like I'm just being born Like a shiny light breaking in a storm... ~ Willy, Joni Mitchell (Ladies Of The Canyon, 1970)KATE: "This takes us into The Morning Fog. 'Morning fog' is the symbol of light and hope. It's the end of the side, and if you ever have any control over endings they should always, I feel, have some kind of light in there." ...Wake up Love! ...We should make the night, but see your little Light's alive!KATE: Well, that's really meant to be the rescue of the whole situation, where now suddenly out of all this darkness and weight comes light. You know, the weightiness is gone and here's the morning, and it's meant to feel very positive and bright and uplifting from the rest of dense, darkness of the previous track. And although it doesn't say so, in my mind this was the song where they were rescued, where they get pulled out of the water. And it's very much a song of seeing perspective, of really, you know, of being so grateful for everything that you have, that you're never grateful of in ordinary life because you just abuse it totally. And it was also meant to be one of those kind of "thank you and goodnight" songs. You know, the little finale where everyone does a little dance and then the bow and then they leave the stage. [laughs]- gaffa.org/reaching/ir85_r1.htmlOPHELIA: Good night, ladies; good night, sweet ladies; good night, good night..."How do you know what will happen tomorrow? For your life is like the morning fog -- it's here a little while, then it's gone..." (James 4:14). “the young Dawn showed again with her rosy fingers…” (Homer). I'm falling, And I'd love to hold you know. I'll kiss the ground. I'll tell my mother, I'll tell my father, I'll tell my loved one, I'll tell my brothers How much I love them...MACBETH:I will not yield, To kiss the ground before young Malcolm's feet, And to be baited with the rabble's curse. ~ The Tragedy of Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 8The sun gives birth to a new day! … The warm Light breathes, speaks, rings out, overwhelms… KaTe uses a biblical metaphor - the morning fog - to express being born again into a new life of deeper understanding... I am falling/Like a stone… - “born from above” (out of ‘Hello, Earth’) - Too weak to hold or to stand… Stunned by vision and a deeper understanding… (like Paul, Acts 9:1-22)… Like a storm… - Maybe the rescuing helicopter, its wind and waves causing a huge wave of hope, relief, knowledge… ie. The meteorological storm is followed by a spiritual storm (itself frightening and needing courage/faith; Matthew 14:24-33)… She is lifted to safety To Be Born Again… The lost sheep (from ‘And Dream of Sheep’) has been saved and is returning home (‘Nostoi’ - homecoming of the hero)… Being born again… - John 3:3, water, baptism, saved, forgiveness, the kingdom of God, love… I’ll kiss the ground… - respect and appreciate the Gift. The song is deeply spiritual…“born of water and of the Spirit!” "The Morning Fog" encourages insight, love, communication… 'the sweet meaningful'! THEN AGAIN... “I'll tell my mother,/I'll tell my father,/I'll tell my loved one,/I'll tell my brothers…” - This is Kate Bush being autobiographical. So it could be that the protagonist of the previous 6 songs drowned with "Hello Earth". ...And that the ‘I’ of this song is another, ie. our life-affirming lesson from that tragedy. “Only tragedy allows the release/Of love and grief never normally seen…” - All The Love. n.b. How much I love them...Note the ambiguous ending - how much needn't necessarily mean that much! "Music made for pleasure, music made to thrill It was music we were making here until..."Interviewer: Is it sort of a bit of a family business, really? PB: Um, well, yes and no. I mean like, Kate and I have been making music together for years and years, on different levels, you know. But, there's always been music in our family. My older brother John, he played. And I was in a band with him when I was about thirteen or fourteen. Kate Bush - Nationwide special bit 2www.youtube.com/watch?v=meaGiD_yD7gEDIT: The Ninth Wave ocean could be the mind as it struggles; and the Tennysonian saviour could be the 'heaven inside'/'we perform the miracles' ... The protagonist has been thrown into a mental whirlpool, and now struggles to cope... 'But no one ever dies for long...' And the Ninth Wave is about that period before mental rebirth, before one can face the world again. In the 9th Wave, The House (mind) has become an ocean; the 'Let me in' has changed into the Witchfinder... With Hello Earth, the old self drowns and a new tougher skin is born (the saviour from Tennyson's Ninth Wave). Maybe KB was trying to 'drown' her old public self (like Bowie did Ziggy?), ready for a fresh creative period. With Aerial, KB is back in the sea, diving deeper and deeper... There is no sign of Jaws in this Atlantic... She has become panoramic... Up there with eagle clarity... away from 'Civilization and its Discontents'... becoming One with Nature... (but maybe wanting to swap places with a blackbird! ) ...
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Nov 26, 2007 16:28:18 GMT
Oh, wow! Tannis, you've done an amazing job analysing these songs, and your posts are really enlightening. I'd like to comment more thoroughly later, but for now, just thank you for sharing this.
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Dec 19, 2007 5:56:01 GMT
The Morning Fog! One of my very favorite of Kate's songs. It's such a wonderful expression of joy, and synthesis, and completion. After all the heaviness, intensity and darkness that is TNW, this song is so beautiful in it's lightness and elation and awakening. Our heroine has passed through the watery, stormy underworld, and this is the wondrous, prismatic, dazzling *light* of rebirth. Sunrise, and the opalescent light glowing through the morning fog- she breaks free into the beautiful, clean iridescent glory of birth, and it fills her with pure spiritual joy and gratitude. Whether this light is the light of rescue or the light of reincarnation, I'm not really sure. Either way, it is a rebirth, the beginning and end of a shimmering cycle. I guess it doesn't really matter to me whether this is encompassed in one life, or if it goes beyond that. It is a beautiful thing no matter which way you look at it.
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Post by Adey on Dec 19, 2007 20:53:27 GMT
Nice work on the whole song cycle rosabel.. enjoyed your thoughts and insights.
As for the song representing the light of rescue OR reincarnation, I obsessed about this for years. Ultimately, I guess it doesn't really matter.
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Post by rosabelbelieve on Dec 21, 2007 19:52:42 GMT
Thank you, Adey! It's funny, after revisiting the whole thing today, I'm finding Jig of Life very key in whether she survives or not. The old woman and the "come on let me live, girl!" parts say to me that it is her fate to live, and the spoken poetry parts that it is her fate to drown, and return to the ocean. I like looking at it both ways, though- and maybe the story can even have two endings. It's a very interesting idea. IMO, what is commonly considered story structure- beginning, middle and end, problem and solution, etc... is only one of many possible forms for a story to take. I read somewhere that anyone can write, and create stories, because we do it all the time, simply by dreaming. But dreams don't often fit into our conceptions of a story, so we don't consider them to be stories. Don't remember where, but it's interesting... There's a short piece, by Hayao Miyazaki, one of my favorite directors, that has a sort of two-ending scenario.( www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsXje_dogL0) Kind of weird, but very interesting. So maybe the Ninth Wave could end two ways, strange as it sounds....
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Post by Adey on Dec 22, 2007 13:28:17 GMT
So maybe the Ninth Wave could end two ways, strange as it sounds.... Not so strange - perhaps Kate wrote it in such a way as to be entirely ambiguous about the heroine's fate..
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Post by tannis on Mar 29, 2009 14:40:30 GMT
"...traumatised by affection..."
Her "passivity" and "niceness" have also aroused much hostility from the press. Unfairly. And dishonestly. Because I think these journalists, like her schoolfriends, are actually frustrated and angered (threatened?) by their own aggression, turbulence and insecurity - by their own motives and desires which they read in her attentive eyes and project onto her quiescence. They also construe her disposition through their own psychology, mistaking the absence of their own tensions for her lack of substance. And miss the interesting fact that her psychology is markedly and qualitatively different from many people's. That many psychological formations, strategies and devices of ambivalence, aggressivity and ego survival are simply not in her. I'm in no position to psychoanalyse her (and in any case I'm confining these remarks to what is pertinent to her work) but let's say that as a child she was traumatised by affection. Bonded and formed by profound and pleasurable intimacies, by the undisguised and unconditional warmth and trust of her family circle. Which leaves her, as she's often remarked, extremely vulnerable. For I've also seen her on "home ground" with an unguarded look and was surprised (actually quite shocked) by her rawness of expression - and by the hurt it contained. I understood then the desperation of her need to fence her privacy around. "No strangers feet/will enter me," she entreats in "Get Out of My House". And none of her several (and conflicting) explanations of that song account for its fury. Which is also a measure of her exceptional courage. And loneliness. Which also goes back a long way. "A word could not harm me A stone could not bruise me. A gun could not shoot me For I am not here." (Catherine Bush, Form II, school magazine) (The Secret History of Kate Bush & the Strange Art of Pop, Fred Vermorel, London: Omnibus, 1983, pp.79-81)
This love was big enough for the both of us. This love of yours was big enough to be frightened of. It's deep and dark, like the water was, The day I learned to swim. ~ ©1989 Novercia Ltd.
Still, in her mid-twenties, deeply embroiled in her family plot, living with her brothers and returning and returning to her parents' home where she loves quite simply to spend time in their company. A depth of emotion we don't need her frequent avowals to know about. Just feel the passion of that lovely song: "Warm and Soothing". "I'm afraid by how we grow old." Suburbia, of course, is founded on family life. Which is another aspect of its (and her) modernity. For families in general have never been so bonded or enduring as today, and are becoming more so. As every serious study shows - discount journalistic and Vatican folklore! And one of the results of this trend is that children are leaving home physically and emotionally later and later. I doubt Kate will ever properly leave home. Why should she? It's her inspiration. (The Secret History of Kate Bush & the Strange Art of Pop, Fred Vermorel, London: Omnibus, 1983, p.88)
I'll tell my mother, I'll tell my father, I'll tell my loved one, I'll tell my brothers How much I love them. ~ ©1985 Novercia Ltd.
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