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Violin
Jul 30, 2003 23:17:09 GMT
Post by Lori on Jul 30, 2003 23:17:09 GMT
Four strings across the bridge Ready to carry me over Over the quavers, drunk in the bars Out of the realm of the orchestra Out of the realm of the orchestra
Filling me up with the shivers Filling me up with the shivers and quivers Filling me up with the shivers
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
Paganini up on the chimney Lord of the dance With Nero and old Nicky Whack that devil Into my fiddlestick! Give me the Banshees for B.V.s Give me the Banshees for B.V.s
Jigging along with the fiddle, oh, Johnny Jigging along with the fiddle-dee-dee Jigging along with the fiddle, oh, Johnny Jigging along with the fiddle-dee-diddle-dee-dee!
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
Get the bow going! Let it scream to me Violin! Violin! Violin!
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Violin
Jan 30, 2004 12:17:14 GMT
Post by Adey on Jan 30, 2004 12:17:14 GMT
Its just a fantasy isn't it. I don't think there is anything to understand. It gets my vote for its energy, the wildly over the top stage production, the great guitar and fiddle solos and for KB rhyming Paginini with chimney - now thats audacious!
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Violin
Apr 23, 2004 19:20:48 GMT
Post by strabley on Apr 23, 2004 19:20:48 GMT
I think there is another level to this song that is bigger than it just being about violins. If you listen to the demo you can hear how drastically it changed. Like Blow Away, I believe this song to be an examination of the mad utter obsession one can have with music, a madness uncontrolled. Rome is burning and Nero doesn't stop. And it can only be accompanied with banshees for the backing vocals! The way she sings the "fiddle dee diddle lee dee" is about as close to madness as she has ever got. You must admit, this is not just a lovely song about how pretty the violin is. It's an intoxicating madness (drunk in the bars--my favorite Kate pun ) She even tries to conjure up Satan himself with the bow!
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Violin
Apr 23, 2004 20:04:25 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Apr 23, 2004 20:04:25 GMT
...this song to be an examination of the mad utter obsession one can have with music, a madness uncontrolled. The way she sings the "fiddle dee diddle lee dee" is about as close to madness as she has ever got. That's how I feel about it also. It's like a hysteria/obsession with the music, and sort of sexual as well -"filling me up with the shivers & quivers..." Music like orgasmic pleasure? Why not? ;D Especially the end, where she moans with the crazed fiddling. This song really gets me moving, and there's only a few that can on any day. Her delivery is at it's most frantic and maniacal, how can you not get wrapped up in it? Could be like a musical exorcism? And I love the pun, by the way. , she does have some good ones. Does anyone else think she doesn't quite keep the same pace in the live version?
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"In the night you hide from the madman you're longing to be"
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Violin
Apr 23, 2004 22:03:37 GMT
Post by Sven Golly on Apr 23, 2004 22:03:37 GMT
If the televised version, not Hammersmith, was your only exposure to Kate, then you might think her quite mad. I do believe that she, as probably many of us, responds keenly on an emotional level to the high-pitched sound of the violin. It was after all fasioned to mimic the female voice ( with an hour-glass figure to boot. ) Kate's vocal ability could be compared to a fine Stradivarius being caressed and cajoled by a modern master. I think that what some people find screeching and odd is actually a taste that must be aquired through refinement. Much like appreciating the violin, Kate will not appeal to the uninformed or the novice ear.
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Violin
Apr 23, 2004 22:16:49 GMT
Post by Al Truest on Apr 23, 2004 22:16:49 GMT
My 'vibration' theory is proving more and more viable. ( :::Zan thinking "he's using viable alot lately"::: ) Anyway, like minded people may be attuned to pick up on similar vibes. What creates a stimulating and positive response in me, may have a negative e/affect ( can't remember ) on you..... "Just like a station on the radio, I pick you up"
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Violin
Apr 24, 2004 13:34:56 GMT
Post by Adey on Apr 24, 2004 13:34:56 GMT
My 'vibration' theory is proving more and more viable. ( :::Zan thinking "he's using viable alot lately"::: ) Anyway, like minded people may be attuned to pick up on similar vibes. What creates a stimulating and positive response in me, may have a negative e/affect ( can't remember ) on you..... "Just like a station on the radio, I pick you up" " I speak to you through electrical language, Sometimes you hear me when our frequencies meet. You try to listen but you don't understand it, Turn up the rhythm and you'll pick up the beat "
Bill Nelson (Be Bop Deluxe) 1978.
I like the points made about KB's suggestion of madness in this maniacal song. I agree with Sven, that exposure to certain Kate tracks only, may force you to conclude that she was quite insane. Particularly when you add in the wailing and the screeching she was experimenting with at the time. Unfortunately, many UK media presenters and DJ's particularly, focussed on this in the early years of her career. The spoof song " Oh England, My Leotard " by the Not the Nine O'Clock News team, re-inforced this too. As a result, I think there were many UK music fans effectively turned off KB by perception. A lost audience to some extent, who may otherwise have appreciated the talents she has.
Still, that's only their own loss. KB obviously never took it personally and has since worked with Rowan Atkinson (Do Bears) as has been discussed.
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Violin
Apr 24, 2004 15:57:39 GMT
Post by Sven Golly on Apr 24, 2004 15:57:39 GMT
..... exposure to certain Kate tracks only, may force you to conclude that she was quite insane. Particularly when you add in the wailing and the screeching she was experimenting with at the time. Unfortunately, many UK media presenters and DJ's particularly, focussed on this in the early years of her career. The spoof song " Oh England, My Leotard " by the Not the Nine O'Clock News team, re-inforced this too. As a result, I think there were many UK music fans effectively turned off KB by perception. A lost audience to some extent, who may otherwise have appreciated the talents she has.
Classical, Avant-garde and other esoteric genres, will always draw negative response. Homo-phobia, racism, and bigotry in all forms are an attempt to repell the unfamiliar or disconcerting. Things that force you to examine and think about yourself help you to grow.
Not everyone has to like all types of music, things or even people. How you react however is what says the most about you and society. To put down what challenges traditon is a common reaction. But, to trample on the right of expression and growth ranges from being a shame to being oppression.
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Violin
Apr 24, 2004 17:34:51 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Apr 24, 2004 17:34:51 GMT
My 'vibration' theory is proving more and more viable. Refresh my memory again, was that in a post? What is the official vibration theory? ( :::Zan thinking "he's using viable alot lately"::: ) Funny, I was thinking that exact thing as I was reading... then I hit this line. ;D ;D Anyway, like minded people may be attuned to pick up on similar vibes. "Like minded people".... is there a hidden message in that? I am I wrong to find a vague insult in that? Or was that just a reference to being female? I am hoping it was a more complex thought than that. What creates a stimulating and positive response in me, may have a negative e/affect ( can't remember ) on you..... "Just like a station on the radio, I pick you up" This is interesting... go on...
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Violin
Apr 24, 2004 17:51:01 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Apr 24, 2004 17:51:01 GMT
" I speak to you through electrical language, Sometimes you hear me when our frequencies meet. You try to listen but you don't understand it, Turn up the rhythm and you'll pick up the beat "
Bill Nelson (Be Bop Deluxe) 1978. I love this quote Adey. Thanks for posting it. I am unfamiliar with it though. What is it from exactly? I like the points made about KB's suggestion of madness in this maniacal song. I agree with Sven, that exposure to certain Kate tracks only, may force you to conclude that she was quite insane. Particularly when you add in the wailing and the screeching she was experimenting with at the time. I never thought she was insane... the sound is maniacal. Very intentional and experimental. People probably think Laurie Anderson is crazy too. I think what many people, including myself initially, misunderstood that sound and found it abrasive. I found it intriguing, and continued to listen. I didn't understand the wailing/screeching, but now I find it amazing. It's like pure emotion, without pretense, like an inner voice shouting out. Unfortunately, many UK media presenters and DJ's particularly, focussed on this in the early years of her career. The spoof song " Oh England, My Leotard " by the Not the Nine O'Clock News team, re-inforced this too. As a result, I think there were many UK music fans effectively turned off KB by perception. A lost audience to some extent, who may otherwise have appreciated the talents she has. Mass media has always ridiculed what it didn't understand. Maybe that's how she sees it. In a way, it points the humor right back at the unenlightened. However, even I can find some lighthearted humor in parody, when done right. Still, that's only their own loss. KB obviously never took it personally and has since worked with Rowan Atkinson (Do Bears) as has been discussed. I haven't heard that one. I like that she seems to have a great sense of humor, or at least did. What does that song have to do with Atkinson? Did he sing it? Or is it just that she went on to parody herself with Do Bears? I think it's just fantasic. ;D
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Violin
Apr 24, 2004 21:04:06 GMT
Post by Al Truest on Apr 24, 2004 21:04:06 GMT
Refresh my memory again, was that in a post? What is the official vibration theory? Yes, see "Universal Code" on the "Other Topics" board. Just like a radio, I pick you up. Absolutly no insult was intended. I was speaking generally about our group being of like mind in picking up on Kate's vibes. We all put out positive or negative energy. We must be attuned to connect or receive it. Being sensitive, or by exercising with an open and or enlightened ( overused as well ) mind, can help open new worlds. As well, it can help weed out hidden agendas or deceptions. Powerful energies - good or evil - will be sustained by those who help the messages reverberate.
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Violin
Apr 26, 2004 0:17:58 GMT
Post by Adey on Apr 26, 2004 0:17:58 GMT
Thank you Xan. The quote is actually the complete lyric for the song " Electrical Language " . It comes from the final album " Drastic Plastic " , by the group Be Bop Deluxe, released in 1978.
Be Bop toured the US extensively during 1976-1978, but never quite made the breakthrough they hoped for. Infact, they were never really a big name in the UK either.
The main creative force behind the band was a guy called Bill Nelson, a Yorkshireman and something of an unsung guitar hero. His writing was fantastic, part sci fi, usually allegorical and always cryptic.
Nelson still records at his home and has released over 40 CDs via the internet. A few of these were released traditionally by minor labels that came and went.
Bill was something of a visionary, and was dropped by his label EMI, after making the new wave album " Sound on Sound " , under the name of Red Noise. Unfortunately he was well and truly ripped off by the music industry (shame on you EMI) after signing some dodgy contracts early on in his career.
If you ever see the following albums in the bargain bucket at your local record store priced at 99cents - buy them, you'll never regret it:
Axe Victim, Futurama, Sunburst Finish, Modern Music, Live in the Air Age! & Drastic Plastic all by Be Bop Deluxe.
Also, Sound on Sound by Red Noise, or The Love That whirls, Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam or The Return of Atom Boy, under Bill's own name.
Be Bop Deluxe had 1 minor hit in the US, called " Without Love (we are like ships in the night) " .
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Violin
Apr 28, 2004 10:28:28 GMT
Post by Adey on Apr 28, 2004 10:28:28 GMT
I haven't heard that one. I like that she seems to have a great sense of humor, or at least did. What does that song have to do with Atkinson? Did he sing it? Or is it just that she went on to parody herself with Do Bears? I think it's just fantasic. ;D Yes Xan, Rowan Atkinson is the other 'singer' on Do Bears.. As for Oh England My Lionheart, that was sung by Pamela Stephenson as part of the Not the Nine O'Clock News, comedy sketch program in which Atkinson also starred.
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Violin
Apr 28, 2004 17:14:25 GMT
Post by Xanadu on Apr 28, 2004 17:14:25 GMT
I'm a big Atkinson fan, but you only have limited access over here. Mostly Black Adder and Bean. So, I was thrilled when I finally got a copy of Do Bears. It's wonderful when interests cross like that... I love it! ;D I thought maybe he did the Leotard bit. Not unlike him, but I haven't heard it. That one that was posted a while back wouldn't play on my computer. I'll have to find another source. So what do you think.... how does Kate come across to you? She would, at first, seem quite serious and difficult... but eventually I began to see the fun humor in her personality. I really appreciate an ability to have fun with art and your celebrity. Do you think she has lost this? Do you think she has grown out of being able to reach levels like Violin?
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Violin
Apr 28, 2004 19:10:59 GMT
Post by Adey on Apr 28, 2004 19:10:59 GMT
So what do you think.... how does Kate come across to you? She would, at first, seem quite serious and difficult... but eventually I began to see the fun humor in her personality. I really appreciate an ability to have fun with art and your celebrity. Do you think she has lost this? Do you think she has grown out of being able to reach levels like Violin? Interesting question Xan. It is of course so hard to comment, given the low key nature of Kate's public personna. I can see a lot of humour in her work, and the live shows were full of it. You couldn't take her too seriously after watching her perform James and the Cold Gun and moments in Hammer Horror and Wow etc. I always enjoy the song/video The Big Sky, where she's clearly having a ball - and that's nice to see. I don't think she interviews very well though. She always comes across as slightly uncomfortable and perhaps more serious than she may like to appear. Clearly she enjoys the company of comedians and I'm thinking of Robbie Coltraine, Rowan Atkinson and Lenny Henry in particular. Also the other various members of the Comic Strip Presents.. Oh, and who could forget Ken! (interestingly enough another manic vocal performance). We all know how important KB's work is to her, and thank God for that. But it might be nice to see her relax a little more now she has moved into her middle age. I guess that's all I have to say on the subject. I hope it's the sort of thing you were hoping to hear.
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