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Post by Lori on Jul 14, 2003 22:10:09 GMT
In the warm room Her perfume reaches you Eventually you'll fall for her Down you'll go To where the mellow wallows
In the warm room She'll touch you with your Mamma's hand You'll long to kiss those red lips But when you do It'll feel like kicking a habit
She'll tell you that she'll stay So you'd better barricade the way out She'll tell you she's true She'll tell you she loves you She's waiting in that warm room
In the warm room She prepares to go to bed She'll let you watch her undress Go places where Your fingers long to linger
In the warm room You'll fall into her like a pillow Her thighs are soft as marshmallows Say hello To the soft musk of her hollows
She'll tell you that she'll stay So you'd better barricade the way out She'll tell you she's true She'll tell you she loves you She's waiting in that warm room
In the warm room
She's waiting in that warm room
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Post by stev0 on Jul 1, 2005 14:54:06 GMT
This has always been one of my less-favorite Kate songs (there is no Kate song I dislike, with the exception of "Y should I Luv U"). And I really can't blame the song itself, it's more the positioning. It comes right after Full House, another slow - OK, I'll say it - boring song, so by the time you get to Kashka from Baghdad (a very good song), you're too sleepy to enjoy it.
Now, it they switched places in this song with "In Search of Peter Pan" (a highly under-rated song), it would have made the album a LOT better. But nobody asked me.
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Post by Xanadu on Jul 1, 2005 19:12:12 GMT
I'd like to speak on behalf of this quiet song. I think it's one of the most beautiful moments of LH, and perhaps of her piano accompanied pieces. I love the strong sentiment of female sexual power, alluring and addicting. Such a haunting melody and delivery.... I especially love the way she vocalizes the bolded words. They almost have a coy, teasing way about them.
She'll tell you that she'll STAY So you'd better BARRICADE the way out She'll tell you she's TRUE She'll tell you she LOVES you...
It was one of the last I noticed on LH, mainly because it is so quiet and buried in the album. But now, I wait for it, and hush everything around so I can hear it. "Barricade" always gives me a rush.
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Post by Scott on Jul 3, 2005 2:21:42 GMT
I'll keep this brief.....I think it is the most beautiful love song ever written. S
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 3, 2005 2:52:42 GMT
I'll keep this brief.....I think it is the most beautiful love song ever written. S That's bold. Why do you think so? 'I think it is a beautiful song as well. It is powerful and seductive, but not the best one ever written, as 'love songs' are traditionally defined - at least IMO. (The best one can not have marshmallows in it.) Besides I don't look to Kate as much for expressions of romantic love, but the understanding of it. The hurt, sorrow and reality - the frailty and honesty ; but not as much the expression of romantic love. Love for family and ideals - love for justice and passion; but not so much the expression of romantic love. Her themes to me, generally speaking - and of most interest to me - are of sex and power (the crux, along with temptation, of Warm Room btw)- gender and justice; but not as much one on one sentimentality. I get that elsewhere. From Kate you are engaged with her soul. It is a vicarious experience that opens your mind up to the tools we all use and, more often, misuse.- That should get some dialogue started.
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Post by stev0 on Jul 3, 2005 4:30:21 GMT
Al: Kate can write a love song with the best of them.
Scott: I'm not saying your wrong (how can an opinion of a song be wrong? OK, so if you like Sheryl Crow, you're wrong there, but that's a scientific fact). But Kate has several love songs which I think are better: Moving, Passing Through Air, Love and Anger, This Woman's Work - then there are her specialized love songs - Cloudbusting (love of a son to his father), The Infant Kiss, even Wuthering Heights. I could go on, but I think I've made my point here...
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 3, 2005 4:51:43 GMT
Al: Kate can write a love song with the best of them. Like you say, how can your opinion be wrong. I guess what I mean, and I'll use the examples you've given, her songs don't fit what I think of as 'love' songs in the traditional sense. By this I mean they are mostly darker - seeking answers more than simple professions of longing and sentimentality. Moving - (Love of an idea and expression (Whales and dance) more than for another human being in particular - unless it is love for Lindsay Kemp. And that is more about admiration, awakening and gratitude - not romance)) Passing Through Air - (Filler to me, and the only real traditional 'love song' in the bunch) Love and Anger - (Passion and pitfalls - not a true love song) This Woman's Work - (anguish, regret and encouragement - this one makes me cry every time though. A truly powerful song about love, but so much more about the frailty, neediness and darkness of it than the affirmation of it) By these examples, and maybe I'm being nit-picky here, Kate does not write sappy or sentimental songs about romantic love for a partner (as I chose to see it) She writes about, to me, the greater truths that speak to our hearts with awakening and not just about commiseration and adulation. We are in agreement. As I said, love for family and ideals though, not her affection for a lover. (save Wuthering Heights. But that is dark and twisted too - not at all what I'd call a 'love song' Yes. I just have tried to make the distinction between 'traditional' love songs and 'songs about love' from Kate. If I were to have to choose a ''love song'' from her it would be from Red Shoes - her most sentimental album. (IMO) "Moments of Pleasure" and then only in parts. Also which song is supposedly about Del Palmer? I forget (sorry for all the edits, I hit post instead of preview. I usually edit first. )
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Post by ~Passion~ on Jul 3, 2005 5:32:43 GMT
In the warm room Her perfume reaches you. Eventually you'll fall for her. Oh... the newly taste of lust between a man and a woman. *swoon* But when you do It'll feel like kicking a habit. True... true. She'll tell you that she'll stay, So you'd better barricade the way out. She'll tell you she's true. She'll tell you she loves you.Maybe it's just me, but in the context of these lyrics, I get the presumption that Kate is trying to forewarn the victim. I personally think that her love songs appeal more to me than any others because they obtain a realistic point of view. Real love isn't always perfect. The darkness behind her music has always captured my attention for being so real. edit: Do you think I've used the word 'real' enough? lol
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Post by godtoldmetohateyou on Jul 3, 2005 5:38:15 GMT
Besides I don't look to Kate as much for expressions of romantic love, but the understanding of it. The hurt, sorrow and reality - the frailty and honesty ; but not as much the expression of romantic love. Love for family and ideals - love for justice and passion; but not so much the expression of romantic love. Her themes to me, generally speaking - and of most interest to me - are of sex and power (the crux, along with temptation, of Warm Room btw)- gender and justice; but not as much one on one sentimentality. I get that elsewhere. From Kate you are engaged with her soul. It is a vicarious experience that opens your mind up to the tools we all use and, more often, misuse.- That should get some dialogue started. « Last Edit: Today at 4:45am by Al Truest »
I agree with that thought Mr Truest maybe this is true too,
in the warm room I think is a story(more likely a movie she
viewed) told to kate about a
(young man's) first love
when things are said that aren't completely even really known,Yes we'll be together always, I won't leave you,
or possibly it's about a women who can't be herself in front of her husband and/or/both maybe abused which is why
he had better barricade the door. Oh I'm not sure, just a thought
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Post by stev0 on Jul 3, 2005 14:07:26 GMT
I have a broader definition of "Love song", I guess. I don't mean JUST the traditional "boy being meets girl being beneath a silvery moon, which then explodes for no adequately explored reason" songs. Any song about love (including how crappy it can be, eg "And So is Love" or "You're the One") is, to me, a love song. I'd say MOST of Kate's songs are love songs, in one form or the other.
In fact, it's BECAUSE none of these are the "traditional" love songs that I'm such a big fan of hers.
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 3, 2005 14:55:55 GMT
In fact, it's BECAUSE none of these are the "traditional" love songs that I'm such a big fan of hers. Me too - and my point in making the distinction,
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Post by Adey on Jul 4, 2005 20:57:08 GMT
AT, You're the One is the song generally considered to be about Del Palmer..
One of the more enlightening and enjoyable experiences to be had on this Forum, is typified by this thread. When one utterly familiar song is identified by a poster and which then catches the imagination of more participants. Interesting to read these retrospective comments about The Warm Room, and to see how dearly it is held to the hearts of some members. I enjoyed the new view points and the opening of a discussion on how KB portrays the idea of love and sex - as a character (which allows her to take a view that may not be her own) or straight out of her own experience and honestly recorded..
I see the song and as a matched 2nd half of Feel It from TKI, both musically and lyrically. Surely not a coincidence. I like to speculate that she hadn't got the confessional dynamic/speculation of Feel It out of her system the first time around and needed to re-visit. Lord alone knows whether or not these outpourings of a woman comfortable with her sexuality, are Kate's, or are in the character, suggesting that Kate herself may not be so comfortable with the idea of such easy sexual expression..
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Post by tannis on Dec 6, 2007 13:12:44 GMT
An eerily seductive song with an Oedipal kick... The Siren’s Song! … Odysseus tied to the mast must surely have heard such sweet singing! ...
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Post by gothicaljordan on Jul 15, 2010 20:53:03 GMT
It almost seems like she's a prostitute. The male is young, inexperienced, naïve. Maybe one of those people who think love and sex are the same. Perhaps this is his first time havin sex. Hmm, I don't know. That's what I think (at least to some degree).
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Post by Barry SR Gowing on Jul 16, 2010 21:01:42 GMT
It almost seems like she's a prostitute. The male is young, inexperienced, naïve. Maybe one of those people who think love and sex are the same. Perhaps this is his first time havin sex. Hmm, I don't know. That's what I think (at least to some degree). Possibly. She's older ... he's young and inexperienced. It's not inconceivable that she's a prostitute. There's definitely an Oedipal overtone - but that's inevitable if she's close to twice his age. Not that I noticed such things when I was a young man, of course... --Paul--
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