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May 4, 2008 20:20:16 GMT
Post by tannis on May 4, 2008 20:20:16 GMT
Sexual Metaphor: You crush the lily in my soul... [/i][/color] [/center] In KaTe's second Top Of The Pops performance of 'Wuthering Heights', KB's piano is covered with flowers. In the Swap Shop interview, she refers to them as "plastic orchids". However, could they be plastic Calla Lilies?The meaning of white Calla Lilies is "magnificent beauty." They became popular in the United States when the movie Stage Door (1937) was released. It was the film in which Katharine Hepburn said, "The Calla Lilies are in bloom again. Such a strange flower—suitable to any occasion. I carried them on my wedding day, and now I place them here in memory of something that has died." Katharine Hepburn herself has been associated with white Calla Lilies since then, as she is as long-lasting and elegant as the flowers themselves. The word "Calla" actually comes from the Greek "Kallos," which means beautiful. Their scent is light, a mere afterthought.The Calla Lily was the flower that the early Romans used to mark the passage of the winter solstice. Over time, the Calla Lily became associated with the celebration of funerals. Most likely, because they bloomed profusely during the darkest time of the year, winter solstice. Katherine Hepburn’s famous whispered line, “The Calla lilies are in bloom again” in Stage Door, was a subtle reference to the dying of the light.
The flower became even more popular with artists after Freud provided a sexual interpretation of its form that added new levels of meaning to depictions of it. The Calla Lily soon became a recurring motif in works by important painters and photographers, particularly Georgia O’Keeffe, who depicted the flower so many times and in such provocative ways, that by the early 1930’s she became known as “the lady of the lilies.”Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights 1978www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBOdvzt3-4Two Calla lillies on pink, O'Keeffe, 1928, oil on canvas, 101.6 x 76.2 cm Those who come prepared for sexual metaphors in the work of Georgia O'Keeffe will find beautiful abstractions full of provocative orifices and ambiguous folds. and see:Kate Bush - Movingwww.youtube.com/watch?v=uSX0LEuXRok0.54Kate Bush Swap Shop interviewwww.youtube.com/watch?v=TvAEqK-G4w82:35 - I: True. I was lucky enough to be on your first Top Of The Pops and ... K: It was my second one actually, if I remember. I: Was it the second one? K: Yeah. I: That was with that song. K: Yes. I: I remember you being incredibly cool when things were getting a little bit heavy [Kate laughs] because you couldn't get the timing right with Johnny Pearson's orchestra and Johnny was trying to be sympathetic and sort it out. K: That's right. I: And the terrible time problems recording Top Of The Pops. You really kept calm about the whole thing, I thought that was quite amazing. Have you found it difficult to adapt at all to some of the pressures of television or live appearances. K: Well, it's such a strange process the whole thing, you know. Like you get very nervous before you come on, and then when you're actually doing it you're so concerned about giving your best that... I was quite happy to say "Um, 'cuse me, can we just stop and do it again" I: There was a problem with orchids all over the piano, wasn't there. K: Oh, yes! Plastic orchids. They were worried that they were going to blow up, you see, and the whole place would go up in flames.gaffa.org/reaching/iv79_ss.html
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May 5, 2008 10:25:45 GMT
Post by Adena on May 5, 2008 10:25:45 GMT
I've always loved this particular Kate song. I don't know why. She just sounds like an absolute angel in it.
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May 5, 2008 16:25:06 GMT
Post by rosabelbelieve on May 5, 2008 16:25:06 GMT
I agree, it is a lovely song. And fascinating connections with calla lilies, Tannis.
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May 5, 2008 17:50:26 GMT
Post by tannis on May 5, 2008 17:50:26 GMT
Thank you... I asked Kate about Moving, the first song on 'The Kick Inside' and her most fitting blend of word and sound so far. It's a complete evocation of the movement of the dancer, speaking with his limbs, sense through sensuality, as sexy as his 'beauty's potency', the dancer and the watcher in harmony like lovers. So I asked her what whale noises were doing in there. KB: "Whales say everything about 'moving'. It's huge and beautiful, intelligent, soft inside a tough body. It weighs a ton and yet it's so light it floats. It's the whole thing about human communication -- 'moving liquid, yet you are just as water' -- what the Chinese say about being the cup the water moves in to. The whales are pure movement and pure sound, calling for something, so lonely and sad... On the ground they're ppff ( splodging sound), but in the water they're 'wahooo!' Which is the way with a lot of dancers..." 'Moving' is dedicated to Lindsay Kemp who led her into rediscovering herself with an inspiring performance and a series of 50p lessons in the public classes he gave. KB: "He needed a song written to him. He opened up my eyes to the meanings of movement. He makes you feel so good. If you've got two left feet it's 'you dance like an angel darling.' He fills people up, you're an empty glass and glug, glug, glug, he's filled you with champagne." "Labushka"gaffa.org/reaching/i80_so.htmlMoving stranger, does it really matter? As long as you're not afraid to feel Touch me, hold me, how my open arms ache Try to fall for me..."Cathy: The woman with the gay man in her eyes..." Gaffa: "It could be that here Kate is asking Kemp to try to 'fall' for her in spite of his homosexuality. She seems to say that his sexual preference shouldn't really matter as long as he's not afraid to have feelings for her. With this interpretation, the above lines would read like this 'Beautiful dancer, What difference does my gender make?/If you can feel my love?/Touch me, hold me, How I long for you./Try to fall in love with me too.'" gaffa.org/dreaming/tki.html#movingOr IMHO it could be that the first part of the song is like 'Feel It' or 'Oh To Be In Love', about a one night stand, or the loss of virginity, and a broken heart... See what you're doing to me...How I'm moved How you move me With your beauty's potency You give me life Please don't let me go You crush the lily in my soul......Here, the lily metaphor could suggest a first sexual experience, a loss of maidenhead, and the deflowering of the soul.Moving liquid...And the second part of the song could be the tribute to Lindsay Kemp, to the therapeutic and restorative powers of Lindsay Kemp's "expressive mime" tutoring. Kate compares Kemp's movement and personality with water. Not only are his movements fluid, but he has grace and charm, and perhaps a tao-like non-resistance... Yes, you are just as water You flow around all that comes in your way Don't think it over It always takes you over And sets your spirit dancing
How I'm moved How you move me With your beauty's potency You give me life Please don't let me go You crush the lily in my soul...So maybe Moving tells two different stories... and that the two verse/chorus parts respond to two different situations, to two different moving experiences...And sets your spirit dancing...Dance therapy, or dance movement therapy is the psychotherapeutic use of movement (and dance) for emotional, cognitive, social, behavioural and physical conditions. Dance (psycho)therapy is founded on the premise that the body and mind are an interrelated continuum, that the state of the body may affect mental and emotional wellbeing in manifold ways. KB: "[Lindsay Kemp] taught me that you can express with your body--and when your body is awake so is your mind." gaffa.org/reaching/i78_nme.htmlThem heavy people hit me in a soft spot... Movement also constitutes an integral part of the Gurdjieff Work. Gurdjieff sometimes referred to himself as a "teacher of dancing". To provide conditions in which inner attention could be exercised more intensively, Gurdjieff taught his pupils "sacred dances" or "movements" which they performed together as a group, and he left a body of music inspired by what he heard in visits to remote monasteries and other places. You crush the lily in my soul...
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May 6, 2008 0:32:06 GMT
Post by rosabelbelieve on May 6, 2008 0:32:06 GMT
Or IMHO it could be that the first part of the song is like 'Feel It' ("See what you're doing to me?") or 'Oh To Be In Love', about a one night stand, or the loss of virginity, and a broken heart...How I'm moved How you move me With your beauty's potency You give me life Please don't let me go You crush the lily in my soul......Here, the lily metaphor could suggest a first sexual experience, a loss of maidenhead, and the deflowering of the soul. Yes, "You crush the lily in my soul" seems to suggest this. Yet the emotional tone of the song, for me, suggests a revelment in the metaphysical flow of life, and the changes it brings over her, rather than regret or broken-heartedness about the loss of her 'purity.' Yes... Funny, as I type this I've just come back from Aikido - a martial art that focuses on energy and nonviolence, and could be said to have similarities with dance. A lot of the ideas in this song remind me of that. And I certainly see connections with Taoism, and the notion of wu wei, or creative quietude... Moving calls us to surrender to the immense liquid tides of life energy (maybe even subatomic energy?), or 'the symphony' of life, and let its joy and vitality permeate our being. I think its almost a mystical or spiritual song in that respect - a wedding of spirit and matter, the eternal force of life and the mortal body. It puts us in touch with the source that moves us and gives us life, and both crushes and renews 'the lily' in our souls...
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May 6, 2008 4:45:04 GMT
Post by tannis on May 6, 2008 4:45:04 GMT
Moving stranger, does it really matter? As long as you're not afraid to feel Touch me, hold me, how my open arms ache Try to fall for me...Moving is a wonderful song, and so easy to fall in love with. Kate's very first album-words, addressed to us as moving strangers, are reassuring, welcoming, captivating and seductive. She invites us to touch her, to hold her, to fall for her, to let her in. We are immediately in KaTe's arms, charmed by her spell and under her magic. The dancer and the listener in harmony like lovers... Each moves the other, sharing in the life force and exchanging vows of commitment... Please don't let me go... You crush the lily in my soul...
Don't even know you but I need you to love me, too...
I can so imagine the 1978ers fondly regarding the album sleeve, as the disc turned for the first time in many swims... Yet the emotional tone of the song, for me, suggests a revelment in the metaphysical flow of life, and the changes it brings over her, rather than regret or broken-heartedness about the loss of her 'purity.' Moving calls us to surrender to the immense liquid tides of life energy (maybe even subatomic energy?), or 'the symphony' of life, and let its joy and vitality permeate our being. I think its almost a mystical or spiritual song in that respect - a wedding of spirit and matter, the eternal force of life and the mortal body. It puts us in touch with the source that moves us and gives us life, and both crushes and renews 'the lily' in our souls... Yes, Rosa, I so agree... Moving is like swimming with dolphins, with whales, with KaTe... And we are really encouraged to experience the regenerative vitality of life as an exquisite musical suite... Encore! ... The Blue Goddess... Kate Bush - Tour of Life 1979 - Movingwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn5pxGrPBuIKate singing Moving live at the tokyo music festivalkate bush Moving livewww.youtube.com/watch?v=s4dvOhksLhg&feature=relatedLook closely at the bouquet around her neck and you'll see an enormous old microphone poking out the top...
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May 6, 2008 13:02:53 GMT
Post by Adena on May 6, 2008 13:02:53 GMT
The lily is an open flower. The flower crushed seems to suggest to me petals sprawled and beauty broken, which does not suggest to me a woman losing her virginity but a woman who is losing part of herself.
Losing one's virginity is an experience, yes, but not a sufficiently profound one to make the loss of part of oneself go hand-in-hand with it. I think that the woman in Moving finds herself losing more than her virginity to this man.
Perhaps she loses her heart...
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May 6, 2008 13:34:50 GMT
Post by tannis on May 6, 2008 13:34:50 GMT
Or maybe Lindsay Kemp's Flowers crushed the lily in the young KaTe's soul..."It wouldn't be until July of 1976 that a record deal was finalized, however, and Kate was left to spend the next year in a state of uncomfortable uncertainty: out of school, but with no definite prospects for the future. It was during this period that she was introduced to the work of mime artist Lindsay Kemp through his performance of Jean Genet's Flowers in London; Kate's imagination was captured and she subsequently enrolled in a series of classes being taught by Kemp at the Collegiate Theatre. From this point onwards, movement and dance would become an intergral part of her creative output."www.nndb.com/people/504/000025429/Maybe KaTe felt overwhelmed by his performance, his magic, his beauty's potency... The young KaTe may have felt a moment of crushing pain, like she'd never be able to master the art of dance... For a brief moment, Kemp's brilliance may have blown out KaTe's candle. And that brief crushing moment becomes Moving... and Kate Bush rises out of the ashes...
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May 6, 2008 15:49:27 GMT
Post by rosabelbelieve on May 6, 2008 15:49:27 GMT
The lily is an open flower. The flower crushed seems to suggest to me petals sprawled and beauty broken, which does not suggest to me a woman losing her virginity but a woman who is losing part of herself. Losing one's virginity is an experience, yes, but not a sufficiently profound one to make the loss of part of oneself go hand-in-hand with it. I think that the woman in Moving finds herself losing more than her virginity to this man. Perhaps she loses her heart...As I did say before, Moving doesn't seem like a broken-hearted song to me, though I see your point, Adena. Maybe the heart has to be broken, in a way, to let in the greater, beautiful, creative wave of inspiration and vitality that dancing puts one in touch with? Maybe a selflessness, or a 'death of self', is experienced on the way to the experience of a more impersonal, transcendent self. A self that is the regenerative source and divine, Tao-like creativity of being. Yes... She is moved, and her 'her open arms ache', but out of that crushing moment, new life can arise, I think.
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May 7, 2008 7:23:13 GMT
Post by Adena on May 7, 2008 7:23:13 GMT
The lily is an open flower. The flower crushed seems to suggest to me petals sprawled and beauty broken, which does not suggest to me a woman losing her virginity but a woman who is losing part of herself. Losing one's virginity is an experience, yes, but not a sufficiently profound one to make the loss of part of oneself go hand-in-hand with it. I think that the woman in Moving finds herself losing more than her virginity to this man. Perhaps she loses her heart...As I did say before, Moving doesn't seem like a broken-hearted song to me, though I see your point, Adena. Maybe the heart has to be broken, in a way, to let in the greater, beautiful, creative wave of inspiration and vitality that dancing puts one in touch with? Maybe a selflessness, or a 'death of self', is experienced on the way to the experience of a more impersonal, transcendent self. A self that is the regenerative source and divine, Tao-like creativity of being. I think there is a difference between losing one's heart and having it broken. Many of us - our hearts are lost and yet complete.
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Aug 26, 2008 22:15:17 GMT
Post by tannis on Aug 26, 2008 22:15:17 GMT
FLOWERS: The Man with the Child in his Eyes...When Kate first left school she knew she wanted to dance. She had tried Karate and not found it satisfying but after seeing an advertisment for Lindsey Kemp's 'Flowers' she was drawn to his classes. Lindsey believed that people could be liberated through mime and music but his classes were for living fabulously through all senses -- to release the individual personality. After six months with Lindsey she then took modern dance classes every morning for a couple of hours with Anthony Van Laast. Face & Figure, "Today's Style And Looks" (1979)gaffa.org/reaching/i79_faf.htmlThe next step in her education was to study with the mime and dance artist Lindsay Kemp, of whom she speaks in tones of awe and gratitude. "the first time I saw him it was like a whole new world opened up for me. He did more than I'd ever seen done on the stage before and he never opened his mouth!" Sunday Telegraph, "The Explosive Kate Bush", July 6, 1980gaffa.org/reaching/i80_st2.htmllindsay kemp a domenica in negli anni ottanta www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8fRThaVLsg "Wonderful. Thank you for posting that. It's the final dance from FLOWERS, I think - the death of Divine. It was always great when Lindsay took his bows after this, covered in blood."Kate Bush - The Man with the Child in his Eyeswww.youtube.com/watch?v=lzbw-53g2CUI: The dancing, the dancing is a very important part of your work. Can you just tell me a little about it, you've obviously had training, what sort of training have you had? KB: "Well, I haven't really had that much training. The first thing I had to do was with Lindsay Kemp and I just went to see a show one night. And it was incredible! I couldn't believe what this guy was doing on the stage, in a night. He was completely demanding the audiences attention..." I: He's mime artist. KB: "Oh, yeah, fantastic. I was just at tears at the end of the show. And I went to some of his lessons and he just opened up a new world for me, the fact that you can express so much with your body. And I thought, "well you know maybe I can combine that with singing as well." So I went along and started taking some proper lessons because it's important to discipline your body. And I did a couple years at a place in Covent Garden, like five days a week. And I really enjoyed it." "The Multi-Coloured Swap Shop" with Noel Edmunds, January 20, 1979gaffa.org/reaching/iv79_ss.html
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Aug 27, 2008 20:28:56 GMT
Post by rosabelbelieve on Aug 27, 2008 20:28:56 GMT
^ I enjoyed the link to the final dance from 'Flowers'. I can see how it would have inspired Kate...
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Sept 9, 2008 1:15:17 GMT
Post by tannis on Sept 9, 2008 1:15:17 GMT
^ I enjoyed the link to the final dance from 'Flowers'. I can see how it would have inspired Kate... ^ Yes, the performance is fantastic. No wonder KaTe was in tears at the end of the show... MOVING JAPAN: Try to fall for me...June, 1978: Kate goes to Japan to participate in the 7th Tokyo Song Festival. On June 18 she performs Moving (which is the debut single in Japan) live before an audience of 11,000 at the Nippon Budokan. The television audience is nearer 35 million. The single is boosted on its way to number 1 in the Japanese chart.
Kate did well, but not quite well enough. The contest was won by American singer, Al Green. Kate shared the Festival's Silver Prize with an American rhythm-and-blues group called The Emotions, popular at the time for their hit single Best Of My Love, now all but forgotten.
During her visit, on June 23, Kate performs abridged versions of two Beatles songs, The Long and Winding Road and She's Leaving Home, on the Japanese television programme Sound in S, taped at Tokyo's TBS G Studio.
Also during her visit to Japan Kate makes her only television advertisement, and her only endorsement for a commercial product--a spot for Seiko watches (Kate did a television ad for this Japanese watch manufacturer in June 1978. This is the only commercial endorsement she has ever made, although her music has been used in other advertising; see Fruitopia).Kate Bush - UK TV report on Japan song contestwww.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvsFq46d7M
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Jun 20, 2009 11:27:15 GMT
Post by tannis on Jun 20, 2009 11:27:15 GMT
KT and SEIKO: An Exquisite Success
Sometimes life can be hard, So only think about the good times, Kate Bush xx June, 1978: Kate goes to Japan to participate in the 7th Tokyo Song Festival. On June 18 she performs 'Moving' (which is the debut single in Japan) live before an audience of 11,000 at the Nippon Budokan. The television audience is nearer 35 million. The single is boosted on its way to number 1 in the Japanese chart. Kate wins the Silver Prize jointly with American group The Emotions [!]. During her visit, on June 23, Kate performs abridged versions of two Beatles songs, 'The Long and Winding Road' and 'She's Leaving Home', on the Japanese television programme Sound in S, taped at Tokyo's TBS G Studio. Also during her visit to Japan Kate makes her only television advertisement, and her only endorsement for a commercial product--a spot for Seiko watches. A Chronology of Kate Bush's Career[/color] www.gaffaweb.org/garden/chrono.html#77Kate Bush Seiko Commercialwww.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuzitxK-2AKate Bush - Moving live (1978 Tokyo Music Festival www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvFRIlDCILI
Kate Bush - The Long And Winding Road www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxcRtrDypkQ
Kate Bush - She's Leaving Home www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyWMRNNCiZc
Kate Bush - Them Heavy Peoplewww.youtube.com/watch?v=i_W7vH18aX4
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