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Post by Al Truest on Mar 7, 2004 11:03:07 GMT
  'Keeping it simple this month - simply beautiful that is. The following five selections come from these two albums. The theme is basic. These tracks are musically and lyrically sensual. Please listen and comment:1) "Walk Straight Down the Middle" KB "TSW"
2) "Sarasa" Susheela Raman "Love Trap"
3) "The Fog" KB "TSW"
4) "Save Me" Susheela Raman "Love Trap"
5) "Rocket's Tail" KB "TSW"You can hear samples @ Amazon. or download them from your favorite source. (no music theft!  )Thanks! Enjoy... |
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 8, 2004 5:43:35 GMT
15 hits already.  Hopefully you are downloding and listening to these. In the meantime here are some related links:
See if you recognize this Macedonian piece that inspired the music for "The Sensual World"
[ftp]http://www.kate-bush.org/[/ftp]
What else can you tell me about this? 
Also, here is a very Sensual video from the album "Love Trap":
Broadband: [ftp]http://www.narada.com/Video/VidWrap/lovetrapvidwrap.asx[/ftp]
Dial-up: [ftp]http://www.narada.com/Video/VidWrap/lovetrapvidwrapMod.asx[/ftp]Please comment on style, content and similarities in these songs. Also add some of your favorites that would fit in here. Like Sade maybe?
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Post by Adey on Mar 9, 2004 19:04:35 GMT
I'm backed up here AT. Will respond when I've checked out the Susheela Raman stuff. I'll say thanks in advance for your efforts, I'm sure its gonna be great.
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Post by Xanadu on Mar 10, 2004 0:44:10 GMT
I tried to make this simple. Will no one even acknowledge? Sorry there, I just spotted this. I listened to the samples and the others available at Amazon. I really prefer her songs not in English. Gives her a unique sound. Otherwise, the "Save Me" does sound like a few other female folk singer, but that's only from a few seconds. I like it, and I'll have to give it some more thought for a better post. I will also think of another artist and song to add here. I'm sure there must be few more. Thank you for the time put in here, as always... in your altruistic pursuit to expand our horizons. By the way... anyone ever think that the cover of TSW looks like it could be a Gloria Estefan album? I always thought that (before KB) when I caught a glimpse of it at a record store. |
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 10, 2004 2:49:32 GMT
I really prefer her songs not in English. Gives her a unique sound.
"Save Me" is a cover of the Joan Armatrading song. That and "Love Trap" are the two 'safest' cuts for the novice. A little to bland and 'pop' as compared to some of her other fare (except the video - did you check that out? ) But nonetheless a good introduction to the artist. Thanks 'Zan, I look foward to your additions.
I hope some of you investigate Ms Raman a bit further. Her voice is exceptionally pure and versatile. There are many influences from varied cultures. She has a smoky sensuality to her voice and delivery, that makes for slendid listening.
Born in GB to South Indian parents; she's lived extensively in Australia as well. Her classic training and brillant collaborations earned her BBC3 World Music "Best Newcomer" honors. Please listen and comment. - and watch the Video! |
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Post by Sven Golly on Mar 12, 2004 22:41:07 GMT
See if you recognize this Macedonian piece that inspired the music for "The Sensual World" [ftp]http://www.shoesmith.net/mp3/no.mp3[/ftp]
Lastly, the shoesmith link reveals that the tune for "The Sensual World" is not entirely original. Has anyone else bothered to listen to it? However crude or primitive (It almost sounds like 'Scottish Highlander' in character) it was; Kate really brought it to life. |
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 14, 2004 5:21:06 GMT
I'm backed up here AT. Will respond when I've checked out the Susheela Raman stuff. I'll say thanks in advance for your efforts, I'm sure its gonna be great. |
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Post by Adey on Mar 14, 2004 16:57:46 GMT
Ok some thoughts on this now
Susheela Raman, Sarasa - I particularly liked the combination of the acoustic guitar latin feel with the Indian motifs of the vocal melody. A very nice crossover, that reminded me in parts of Carlos Santana's most recent stuff. Unfortunately the sample just wasn't big enough to make any real discoveries.
Save Me, Smoky, lightly jazzy, immediately made me think of Sade. The vocal obviously much lower pitched here than Sarassa. More mainstream with less of the crossover feel.
More later...
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 14, 2004 22:02:55 GMT
Thanks for the comments. Be sure and listen to "Manusolini" as well. I know these samples are just teasers; but, if you'd like to explore them further, just visit a local "Borders" music store. You may hear more samples there. Also downloading on-line is not very expensive. I wish a few of you would go to the "Genius of Kate Bush" site and hear the link I had posted. |
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Post by Sven Golly on Mar 15, 2004 2:19:51 GMT
How about some Ravi Shankar and Nora Jones (his daughter) being discussed here? George Harrison and the eastern influences on the Beatles would also fit in. I would engage in some dialogue if there are any takers.
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Post by Adey on Mar 15, 2004 15:53:25 GMT
Ok some thoughts on this now Susheela Raman, Sarasa - I particularly liked the combination of the acoustic guitar latin feel with the Indian motifs of the vocal melody. A very nice crossover, that reminded me in parts of Carlos Santana's most recent stuff. Unfortunately the sample just wasn't big enough to make any real discoveries. Save Me, Smoky, lightly jazzy, immediately made me think of Sade. The vocal obviously much lower pitched here than Sarassa. More mainstream with less of the crossover feel. More later... Clearly this is an artist worthy of exploration. I love crossover stuff and this lady sounds like the real deal. I just wish that the Amazon samples had been a bit longer, and that my PC was hooked up to an amp and some decent speakers. What I heard was very sensual though, very ' lights down and intimate entertaining ' music.. Obviously the Kate tracks I'm entirely familiar with. Walk Straight Down the Middle, is a one of my faves from the Sensual World, a lovely groove with a two sided feel. The unexpected brrrrrrrrrrrrrrah bird like calls just add to the sensuality. The Fog I have trouble with. The idea of it is great, but I just don't like the execution. But, it is very ambient and dreamy music (nice orchestrations), I just can't deal with the way the words are apparently superimposed over the top. Rocket's Tail is delightful. Sensual in as much as it's an audio/visual assault on the senses, Kate makes us see the colours of the fire and the sparks.. Great languid guitar solo from Gilmour, who always knows just what to play and what to leave out. His economy is admirable. Only Kate could take a modified electric blues and give it this much colour. I'm sorry that this post sounds so much like the outpourings of a musicologist - I appreciate that it's at odds with the intention of discovering the sensuality of the music. I love and loathe analysis in equal degrees - sometimes I wish I could just feel it.. |
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 16, 2004 0:22:58 GMT
Adey, "The Fog" is one of my very favorites, akin maybe to your sentiments about " Dream of Sheep" I have two daughters, which gives me a more personal affinity with the song. Plus the ambience it creates is very smokey and ethereal....almost foggy.  Further exploration on a good sound system would be recommended for listening to more of Ms Ramen. "Manusolini" sounds great pumped out of hi-end audio components. But no comment on the "Sensual World' link?  |
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Post by Adey on Mar 16, 2004 0:40:36 GMT
AT, I've always thought that my 'difficulties' with half of The Sensual World album, are entirely down to me. I think the album stands up to any assessment and I really appreciate it on an intellectual level, but somehow it just doesn't touch my heart. This does include The Fog. As I said, I appreciated the idea of the song, but not the song itself. That you feel a connection and affinity with it is great. I can understand that it moves you.
I missed your follow up post, where you mentioned the link to The Sensual World. I was working off your original post.. I will of course audition this and comment. I hate to not be thorough in response, when somebody has made an effort!
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Post by Al Truest on Mar 16, 2004 0:57:33 GMT
Thanks Adey, I've just been listening to many of the collaborations and demo's from the 'shoesmith' and 'norby' sites. Where I found the "Sensual World" compositional genesis. |
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Post by Adey on Mar 16, 2004 14:32:00 GMT
I've listened to the Macedonian piece.
It's always interesting to hear curios like this, because of the insight it gives you into the songwriting process. Clearly Kate doesn't always write songs in this manner, but she has done here and I think in The Jig of Life also, where she re-interpreted some traditional Irish themes.
I like the fact that this contains virtually all of the musical themes in the Sensual World song, and that generally, the instrumentation used respects that of the original piece.
You can hear how kate has applied a form of Western European filter, which makes the piece more 'acceptable' to our national sensibilities. By this I mean that some of the micro-tonal stuff has been smoothed out, and the more modern equal temperament scale has been used. This is usually the case when music such as this is coverted for use on western instrumentation.
I may be mistaken, but I don't recall this piece being acknowledged or credited on the Sensual World album. That is both suprising and a little naughty...
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)Thanks! Enjoy...
Hopefully you are downloding and listening to these. In the meantime here are some related links:
