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Post by Al Truest on Jun 28, 2004 2:22:44 GMT
Having just finished reading Marcus Chown's book, "The Universe Next Door" A dubious and unoriginal rehash. That only applies to the physical realm. Horse manure! If you can not yield to a higher power and become one with universal spirtual harmony; then you will be at odds with all the forces of the universe both physical and meta-physical. Being atuned to the vibrations of peace and truth makes you a part of it not - the source of it. If you liken yourself to a droplet of water then you can join the power of the seas, or cast yourself ashore to dry up and add nothing. Again, we are only a cog. The machine can run without us or run us down if we do not heed the call to respond. Philosophy or theology must have hands and legs, lest it be a selfish endeavor in vanity. Dream on....Evil can prevail if justice does not rise up against it. Life is a struggle. To believe that we create our own reality can have grave consequences. Reality and peace are already in place. All you must do is find it. There are several ways to get there, but ultimately it is to find harmony with each other and nature. I think you are correct however in stating that we will never find this on an intellectual level. Nirvana only will come through spirtual enlightenment. Fleetingly you may find it the here and now - and some more than others will accomplish this. However, that journey can bring peace to anyone that seeks it and lets love rule their soul.. The end of death is the goal. Dying a thousand death's is the fruit of arrogance and pride. Maybe Earth is hell. Finding ethereal peace may be an inert realm that is tied to the vastness of an unending universe where time space or consciousness have no meaning. Peace is the prize.
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Post by Neo Stella on Jun 28, 2004 22:22:02 GMT
Altruest, it seems to me every time I stick my head out you chop it off before really examining the contents. Perhaps you have all the answers already and mine are wrong. Or that soon you'll realise we are on different papers.
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Post by Al Truest on Jun 29, 2004 0:11:28 GMT
Altruest, it seems to me every time I stick my head out you chop it off before really examining the contents. Perhaps you have all the answers already and mine are wrong. Or that soon you'll realise we are on different papers. When will you realize that I just love to debate. It is through conflict that we must fight for what we believe. If there is no challenge, then what conviction can you sustain. If you'll notice the sardonic wink after the slam of Marcus Chown. He is brilliant and provacative. Why don't you defend him? You won't hurt my feelings. Remember polite = boring ( thanks RT ) A step further - how can you take what hybrid thought you've acquired and debunk my viewpoint? I need discernable flashes of truth before I bite on theory. It is fun to explore and imagine; but when it comes to formulating a position, one should consider the facts as they can be verified. We may be on different ''papers'' I may be one toke over the line as well; but, you've got to convince me. Because until I see otherwise there is a Universal code that is singularly applicable. Other dimensions or perceptions are just facets of the same stone.
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 3, 2004 2:25:36 GMT
In an effort to be more tolerable Neo, I extend an invitation for you, and anyone else, to post more freely here without fear of too much negative response. My pledge is to be less confrontational, while still imparting my views.
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Post by Neo Stella on Jul 5, 2004 22:16:38 GMT
In an effort to be more tolerable Neo, I extend an invitation for you, and anyone else, to post more freely here without fear of too much negative response. My pledge is to be less confrontational, while still imparting my views. Well alright! We can live and love with all our might! No matter how informed we become, how well read we are, how integrated our viewpoint, there is always more. True wisdom dwells within what we are not. What we become is but an expression. What can be is forever the mystery of being: eternal becoming. What holds true for you now is but a shadow of time beyond which lies truth......Us When.....Now and forever. The code of the universe is continually being broken. Living within the rules restricts you. Break out and realise your self imposed exile is but a level upon which is built just one of your possible selves. Unlock this restriction and discover creativity not yet dreamed of. You, me, us; we have only just begun to discover who we really are, an eternal being living infinite lives in chaotic order to appreciate ourselves. Learn, remember, imagine. in this realm we are but one. Comment?
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 5, 2004 22:33:16 GMT
Well alright! We can live and love with all our might! Nice ''Blind Faith'' tie-in. I'll need more. Imagination is key in advancing progressive theory. However, in practice, to cast one's self adrift from the anchor of universal truth is to do so at the peril of being swallowed by a sea of confusion. I agree that to open doors you must not be limited by convention. However, unsupported notions must be discarded at least until they have a resonance that allows others to pick up the trail. After all, truth is never realized until it is embraced.
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Post by Neo Stella on Jul 5, 2004 22:53:27 GMT
Imagination is key in advancing progressive theory. However, in practice, to cast one's self adrift from the anchor of universal truth is to do so at the peril of being swallowed by a sea of confusion. I agree that to open doors you must not be limited by convention. However, unsupported notions must be discarded at least until they have a resonance that allows others to pick up the trail. After all, truth is never realized until it is embraced. Spoken as a true keeper of the light! Without you long ago we would have been snuffed out. The darkness of the unknown is explored by the ancient flame. Put another way, the bravery of the test pilot is lost without the hum drum science of the number crunchers.
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 5, 2004 22:58:27 GMT
I just had an inspiration that illustrates our difference in perspective here i.e. conventional wisdom vs unbridled imagination. Try these exercises -
When speaking, say the opposite of the accepted or convential manner of expression e.g.:
Pepper and Salt Fro and to Down and Up...etc. (list more if you'd like)
However proper or correct you may be in speaking this way, what good does it do to ignore accepted practices?
Or;
On a summer holiday such as Independance Day or Labor Day, serve boiled custard and fruitcake to your guests.
How about:
Instead of shaking hands with a new business contact, tug their earlobe.
Convention and accepted truth has value. Build on what you know. Effective wisdom and leadership brings people along. Being too quixotic or capricious can lead to enthuisasticly good work being ignored or, at best, being labeled weird. Weird is fine, as long as you have a following. Otherwise you're just crackers.
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Post by Neo Stella on Jul 5, 2004 23:16:11 GMT
Convention and accepted truth has value. Build on what you know. Effective wisdom and leadership brings people along. Being too quixotic or capricious can lead to enthuisasticly good work being ignored or, at best, being labeled weird. Weird is fine, as long as you have a following. Otherwise you're just crackers. In the land of the wife-beaters I couldn't bring myself to follow their convention. The weirdness of my respect for my wife had me cast out as a threat to their way of life. Crackers? Make sure you don't go there then. I'll say this though, every world has something to teach you, that is why it exists. What are you learning in the salt and pepper world?
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 6, 2004 0:02:59 GMT
In the land of the wife-beaters I couldn't bring myself to follow their convention. The weirdness of my respect for my wife had me cast out as a threat to their way of life. C'mon now, play fair. Wife-beating, at least in modern societies, is not conventionally accepted. I don't - without crumbling them up to leave a trail back. .....To connect, to be a part of a greater whole. Unless you are leading the way you stand alone. How lonely that can be.
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 6, 2004 0:26:31 GMT
Spoken as a true keeper of the light! Without you long ago we would have been snuffed out. As much as I'd like that kind of credit; I'd be remiss in not revealing a greater force at work here. ;D
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Post by Neo Stella on Jul 6, 2004 20:29:40 GMT
As much as I'd like that kind of credit; I'd be remiss in not revealing a greater force at work here. ;D Definitely not aware of other lifetimes then?
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Post by Al Truest on Jul 6, 2004 23:33:52 GMT
Definitely not aware of other lifetimes then? Am I less of a man for not?
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Post by Neo Stella on Jul 7, 2004 22:02:10 GMT
Am I less of a man for not? Certainly not! Awareness of other lifetimes is a state of mind that is not for everyone. This doesn't make anyone any less of a person, just a different choice. Perhaps it is the wording of the communication that belies the meaning. You can learn a valuable lesson from a "made up" story. Fables and parables are very good at conveying great truths. You do not have to have lived Winston Churchill's life to learn from it. There is a point in the mind where all lives are one life. Tap into this resource and you can find great wisdom and insight into who we really are.
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Post by Al Truest on Aug 24, 2004 23:42:41 GMT
Perception is all of reality. Without proper stimulation we wind down like a spinning top. The perception I have of my current reality has been jarred by life changing circumstances. I've come to realize that I need the stimulation that is provided by the connection with other souls - both here and in my new setting. Without it, stagnation is inevitable. I need to be wound up and propelled by nuclear powered emotion.... guided by insightful reason and set free by unbridled imagination. Please help.
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