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Post by Al Truest on Aug 29, 2003 15:34:20 GMT
On this thread, feel free to comment on Film, Literature, Art and Poetry. We have been discussing some of these topics as they relate to Kate and her influence; but, there seems to be some general interest in the cinema and the other disciplines of the arts. So, If you'd like to discuss any of these topics, regardless of link to Kate- do so here.
I'll start it off with asking each of you your favorite:
* Book (fiction, non-fiction and biography) * Movie (short, feature and documentary) * Soundtrack or compilation album * Poem and/or or Poet * Sculpture (have you seen Kate's?) * Art of any type painting, performance etc.
Share as much or as little as you'd like. We can get a snapshot of your personality this way. Elaborate as much or as little as you'd like as well.
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Post by Susanne on Sept 19, 2003 16:41:34 GMT
Al, that's a very interesting thread! It's so difficult to make a choice but these are some of my favourites ... ... fictional books: Mark Twain, The Prince and the PauperCharlotte Bronte, Jane EyreThomas Mann, Tonio Kröger... non-fictional book: Buch der Vogelwelt Mitteleuropas [ Book of Central European Birds] with fantastic paintings and drawings ... biography: Stanley Weintraub, Queen Victoria... feature: "Vincent van Gogh" by Vincente Minnelli, with Kirk Douglas as van Gogh ... documentary: "In Europas größtem Lindenwald" ["In Europe's Biggest Linden Forest"] by Peter & Stefan Simak - one of the most beautiful wildlife docus I've ever seen ... soundtracks: "The Graduate" by Paul Simon, performed by Simon & Garfunkel, additional music by David Grusin "Harold and Maude" by Cat Stevens ... poems: Leonard Cohen, "This Morning I Was Dressed by the Wind" Eduard Mörike, "Er ists" ------, "September-Morgen" Rainer Maria Rilke, "Das Karussell" ... poets: William Wordsworth Eduard Mörike the anonymous poet of the medieval Breton lai "Sir Orfeo" ... sculptures: the ancient Greek statue of Nike shown in the Louvre the Peter Pan statue in Kensington Gardens - sorry to say I haven't seen Kate's sculpture yet! ... paintings: the paintings and drawings by Raoul Dufy, the paintings by Claude Monet and Vincent van Gogh ... stage plays: Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, Nathan der WeiseEugene O'Neill, The Iceman ComethLove, Susanne
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 19, 2003 23:56:10 GMT
Susanne, I'm so glad you posted here. I was hoping someone would get the ball rolling. Your choices are quite impressive. We share a favorite (Soundtrack, or at least one ) Plus Dave Grusin I love! I have albums of his from WAY back. And Cat Stevens, what a talent. Too bad he's political and religious views obscured his career. We all know more about you now. I will post mine when we get a couple of more responses here. C'mon! Love, Al (I love doing that!) Thanks for the precedent.
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 23, 2003 1:49:02 GMT
O.K. While we wait for some other responses, I'll post mine:
Book:
* Fiction: "Rememberance of Things Past" Marcel Proust * Non-Fiction: "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" Dee Alexander Brown * Bio: "Jaco" author Bill Milkowski (the life story of Jaco Pastorius)
Movie:
* Short: "The Glass Menagerie" (the 1973 television version) also a great book (Tennessee Williams) and movie starring Katherine Hepburn. * Feature: "A Raisen in the Sun" directed by Daniel Petrie and starring Sidney Poitier also a good book and play. * Documentary: "7-Up" by Michael Apted (about 14 British children of various backgrounds, interviewed and filmed every seven years) The latest edition is 42-up. It is great!
Soundtrack:
* "The Last Temptation of Christ" Peter Gabriel
Poem
* "Lady of Shallott" Alfred Tennyson
Poet/s
* Tennyson and Alfred Noyes. (dramatic, epic and narrative poems are my favorites)
Sculpture:
* 'L' Aurora' Michelangelo (the best and most prolific artist to ever live)
Painting:
* 'Butterfly' Andy Warhol I also like Salvador Dali
Performance Art:
* Kate Bush "Moving" 'Live at Hammersmith Odeon'
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Post by Susanne on Sept 23, 2003 19:43:22 GMT
Al, how could I forget The Glass Menagerie?! I wanted to put it under 'favourite stage plays' but then I somehow forgot to type it! Actually, it IS my FAVOURITE STAGE PLAY OF ALL TIME!!! It's also wonderful to 'just' read the play and give way to your own imagination. Tennessee Williams' characterizations, production notes and stage directions are so beautifully written as well and add very much to the quality of the play. Several years ago I saw the great movie version with Katherine Hepburn playing the part of Amanda Wingfield ... I like Andy Warhol's paitings, too, and pop-art paintings in general (with exceptions). What do you think of Loreena McKennitt's musical version of "The Lady of Shalott"? I very much like the melancholy of the music, which emphasizes the text, and I love the harp accompaniment. Medieval verse romances and lais (e.g. my favourite "Sir Orfeo"), performed by minstrels accompanying themselves on the harp must have sounded very similar. On the occasion of the New Year I translated Tennyson's "Ring out, Wild Bells" for a neighbour a few years ago. What an important message! It's so relevant to the present situation! Love, Susanne
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 24, 2003 1:50:57 GMT
Just when I'm about to give up on a thread, Susanne, you come through. I'm glad you also have an affinity for some of my favorites. As several regulars on the board know; Loreena McKinnett, after Kate, is my favorite artist. That's partly why I chose Tennyson. Loreena's performance of "The Lady of Shallot" on her 'Live from Paris' CD is awe inspiring. The way she uses Yeats, Tennyson and Shakespere (etc) inter-twined with her own lyrics is so unique. When combined with Celtic and moorish influences, it's like taking a beautiful journey. As I do with Kate's music, I have the entire Loreena McKinnett offering of music. In fact, I just received my newsletter today from Quinlan Road. (her website and label, which has some great info and samples ) Thanks for sharing, Love (to all) Al
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Post by Susanne on Sept 25, 2003 0:31:18 GMT
When combined with Celtic and moorish influences, it's like taking a beautiful journey. Al, that's why I love beautiful, mystical sounding music and medieval verse romances and lais, the narratives of which are mainly drawn from Arthurian and other Celtic legends, myths and fairy-tales --- It's like travelling into an enchanted world! Love, Susanne
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Post by Xanadu on Sept 25, 2003 1:18:59 GMT
I have been thinking about this for a while, but I just can't seem to choose what to post. I just wanted to let you know that this is fascinating and I am working on a response, but you already know a little from some other posts. As several regulars on the board know; Loreena McKinnett, after Kate, is my favorite artist. Alright, you are starting to interest me in Loreena McKinnett. Where can I hear a good sampling in your opinion and what would be good to start with? I am hooked on Alison Moyet from this forum and I am very open to others...
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 25, 2003 1:33:30 GMT
My sentiments exactly, Susanne. You know, if not for my love of the music of primarily Kate Bush, Joe Zawinul and Donald Fa-gen (my 3 favorite artists along with Ms McKennitt) my horizons would have probably not opened up to the exent that they have. They've set me on my philosophical path. I've found many shortcuts, but most of all I've enjoyed the winding scenic routes. Love, Al.
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Post by Al Truest on Sept 25, 2003 2:41:17 GMT
Alright, you are starting to interest me in Loreena McKinnett. Where can I hear a good sampling in your opinion and what would be good to start with? I am hooked on Alison Moyet from this forum and I am very open to others... I'm glad you asked Zan. First of all go to: www.quinlanroad.com/When you enter, you'll hear "The Mummer's Dance" Let that soak in for a couple of minutes. Next go to video files. Start with "No Journey's End" It's a short 3 part sampling and intro. (it has been shortened I think ) Clip 2 exemplifies her clear and powerful voice. Then watch the clips from "The Mummer's Dance" and "The Bonny Swan's" These will both take you to another place and culture. Where else are you going to hear zither, harp, accordian and cello played so deftly? When you go to the 'sound files' You can't go wrong with any of "The Mask and the Mirror"; especially "Prospero's Speech", "Marakesh Night Market", or "The Mystic's Dream" Also all of the selections except for "Greensleeves' on "The Visit" are wonderful. Be sure and listen to "Lady of Shalott" on "Live fom Paris and Toronto" (this is also all good) Save 'Elemental' (except for "Annachie Gordon") for later, as well as "Parallel Dreams." Also don't listen to "Winter's Garden" or "To Drive the Cold Winter Away" yet. I plan to feature those on a Holiday playlist. August and Susanne, put your picks in as well. I know both of you are equally enamored with her. I'll re-post a reference to my previous recommendations from another thread too. Anyone else's comments and thoughts are encouraged. ps - go to week XV on the "Moments of Pleasure Board" and also to the first post and then at the end of page 2 and 3 on the "kate's Influences" thread on the general board for more.
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Post by Susanne on Sept 26, 2003 2:42:38 GMT
Thanks for your great recommendations, Al! Those are wonderful video and audio files! - I've saved the other suggested clips for later - Love, Susanne
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Post by colleen on Oct 4, 2003 14:21:13 GMT
Al, we must be true kindred spirits! I hadn't even read your response and jotted down my own faves, then was truly shocked to see that we had more than one in common! Strange phenomena indeed... My own favourites are not as intellectual and complex as some but I've got to be honest here... In some categories, I have several favourites that I can't whittle down any further. Book: Fiction TEXTWuthering Heights TEXT Emily Bronte TEXTTEXTThe Lord of the Rings TEXT JRR Tolkien TEXTThe Return of the Native TEXT Thomas Hardy Book: Non-Fiction TEXTThe Fatal Shore TEXT Robert Hughes (all about Australia's brutal early history) Book: Biography TEXTAnne Frank: The Biography TEXT Melissa Muller TEXTMarilyn: A Biography TEXT Norman Mailer Movie: Short (Can't think of any I would call a favourite!) Movie: Feature TEXTBad Boy Bubby TEXT (a really dark Australian comedy) TEXTHeavenly Creatures TEXT (wonderful Peter Jackson-directed NZ film about a bizarre true murder case) TEXTSleepy Hollow TEXT (I love anything directed by Tim Burton but this one stands out for me, very Gothic and entertaining) Movie: Documentary TEXT7-UP TEXT by Michael Apted, I totally agree with you Al, this is an amazing study of people's lives and I am so looking forward to TEXT49-UP TEXT! Soundtrack: TEXTElizabeth TEXT by David Hirschfelder TEXTThe Lord of the Rings TEXT (both the soundtracks already released - music by Howard Shore) I also love the soundtrack to TEXTThe Graduate TEXT! It is the essence of an era! Poem and/or Poet: Again Al, I'm with you when it comes to TEXTThe Lady of Shalott TEXT by Tennyson. I am quite obsessed with this (including Loreena McKennitt's rendition in musical form and the famous painting by John Waterhouse, a copy of which is hanging on the wall above my computer!) Also, TEXTUnder Ben Bulben TEXT and TEXTThe Lake Isle of Innisfree TEXT by Yeats. Other poets I love include William Blake, John Betjeman, Sylvia Plath, Walt Whitman & (I hate to admit it, but hey I am an English teacher) Shakespeare's sonnets! Sculpture: Anything from the Italian Renaissance - TEXTThe Pieta TEXT or TEXTDavid TEXT. Michelangelo rules! Art in General: I have wide tastes but I like things that are beautiful, first and foremost. I don't see much point in surrounding yourself with depressing art forms when the world out there can be so hard and cold and cruel... which is why I love Kate Bush. Her art is brave and beautiful and inspirational... It might be soppy but I love Pre-Raphaelite paintings, Romantic poetry and Irish music.
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Post by colleen on Oct 4, 2003 14:25:55 GMT
OhmyGod!!! What have I done! I thought I was putting titles into italics but instead all this TEXT bizzo pops up! Just ignore all the TEXT things! I shouldn't try to do anything other than just type my reponses! Colleen XX
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Post by Al Truest on Oct 4, 2003 17:43:53 GMT
OhmyGod!!! What have I done! I thought I was putting titles into italics but instead all this TEXT bizzo pops up! Just ignore all the TEXT things! I shouldn't try to do anything other than just type my reponses! Colleen XX Don't sweat it Colleen, we can decipher the code. . You probably either erased one of the brackets, or did not erase TEXT. You can go back (edit) if you'd like, but I read it and loved all the chouces (that I knew) So you actually have seen "7-up". I challenge anyone else to watch it and not be fascinated. The kid that says "My mum makes me eat greens"....(pause, with dead-pan delivery).....I don't like greens) is so funny. But mostly it is an amazing experiment in human behavior and socio-economic consequences. Emily Bronte, and Norman Mailer are also high in my esteem. You are correct, we must be kindred spirits. I have an affinity with several members of this forum. Soul-birds if a feather flock together, I suppose. I also love the story around the "Diary of Anne Frank" She exemplifies the horrors of the Holocaust. More than that she puts humanity into the equation. Her story is one of the most tragic ever told. It reminds us to fight ignorance and oppression because there is true evil in hatred. I used to quote myself on my avatar here. I was reminded of it in the story of Anne Frank and your comments on beauty...."Love is sublime. It finds beauty within the profane. It exaults humanity to it's highest form." Love jhm
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Post by Al Truest on Oct 4, 2003 18:54:25 GMT
Lori, why do posts (like the previous one here) not show up on the 'ten most recent posts'?
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